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[b]5 hours into debate and the Commons divides over an ammendment to the Johnson agreement to withhold approval of Johnson's deal until legislation is in place to enact it[/b]
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Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
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Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@Kwek00 But as it stands things are pretty stable.
It's when decisions have to be made that things will change.
Employers will have some idea just what operating in a post-Brexit Britain will actually cost them if they're exporting/importing from the E:U.
The currency is pretty stable. Until we leave. Then the vultures will be buying or selling the Pound short.
Everyday that passes without a deal is a day nearer the end of Trump's tenure in America. SO the crap deals he's been talking about become less of a probability.
Ironically, indecision and delay is good for the country despite the political stalemate.
It's when decisions have to be made that things will change.
Employers will have some idea just what operating in a post-Brexit Britain will actually cost them if they're exporting/importing from the E:U.
The currency is pretty stable. Until we leave. Then the vultures will be buying or selling the Pound short.
Everyday that passes without a deal is a day nearer the end of Trump's tenure in America. SO the crap deals he's been talking about become less of a probability.
Ironically, indecision and delay is good for the country despite the political stalemate.
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@Picklebobble2 I hope you are right Bob.
But Political matters that don't get resolved. And a political side that is backed up by a democratic mandate (or a scientific pubblication) can get really radical over time. The longer this takes, the more people that believe in this entire Brexit-thing will get frustrated. The entire war in the street things isn't happening just now, it's still an ivory tower thing. But if something happens that triggers deep believers of a just-cause... youg might end up with things you are seeing in Catalonia at the moment. Where a democratic majority voted for something, things stayed okay and peacefull, untill the spanish governement decided to brutally punish political-leaders who democratically asked advice from their region.
Why would the US bail you out, if you have no leverage? The UK really needs something, that's not like a good place to be in if you are going to try and get a deal. Is there like some hope for altruism when you are in a bad bargaining position?
Ironically the last sentence is still a thought that comes from an island. There are two big actors in this story. And I'm not sure if the EU will keep granting things. Because UK-MPs have this incredible believe that not giving another delay is apperently "unreasonable". It's really incredible at how easy they go over this as if something someone else must grant you, is already obtained as if it belongs to them. Going to Europe to ask delays, has become a running joke, some futile matter that just needs to be done.
But Political matters that don't get resolved. And a political side that is backed up by a democratic mandate (or a scientific pubblication) can get really radical over time. The longer this takes, the more people that believe in this entire Brexit-thing will get frustrated. The entire war in the street things isn't happening just now, it's still an ivory tower thing. But if something happens that triggers deep believers of a just-cause... youg might end up with things you are seeing in Catalonia at the moment. Where a democratic majority voted for something, things stayed okay and peacefull, untill the spanish governement decided to brutally punish political-leaders who democratically asked advice from their region.
Why would the US bail you out, if you have no leverage? The UK really needs something, that's not like a good place to be in if you are going to try and get a deal. Is there like some hope for altruism when you are in a bad bargaining position?
Ironically the last sentence is still a thought that comes from an island. There are two big actors in this story. And I'm not sure if the EU will keep granting things. Because UK-MPs have this incredible believe that not giving another delay is apperently "unreasonable". It's really incredible at how easy they go over this as if something someone else must grant you, is already obtained as if it belongs to them. Going to Europe to ask delays, has become a running joke, some futile matter that just needs to be done.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@Kwek00 No. You're assessment is all wrong.
America is 'short on friends'. Especially from a business point of view.
Trump has spent so much time pointing out everybody else's frailties because he knows nothing is moving for the better at home. He thinks that strategy makes him look 'strong' to a country not seeing their living standards improve.
The E:U has it's own problems.
At least three countries close to economic collapse. (Italy; Ireland and Greece)
No movement in the currency markets in their favour.
And the fact they're about to lose the fifth largest financial contributor when(or more likely IF) the UK ever leaves.
America is 'short on friends'. Especially from a business point of view.
Trump has spent so much time pointing out everybody else's frailties because he knows nothing is moving for the better at home. He thinks that strategy makes him look 'strong' to a country not seeing their living standards improve.
The E:U has it's own problems.
At least three countries close to economic collapse. (Italy; Ireland and Greece)
No movement in the currency markets in their favour.
And the fact they're about to lose the fifth largest financial contributor when(or more likely IF) the UK ever leaves.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Harriet03 · 41-45, F
We're expecting a DUP statement from their brand new HQ in the Maldives shortly!! 🤷♀️