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I Think The Carrying Of Loaded Firearms Should Be A Right

I am a Leftist in many aspects. However, one area of life and politics that i am rather conservative is guns. I believe in the 2nd amendment. For all the ways i complain about my country, from wage stagnation to unaffordable healthcare and education, to racism, etc, i am ultimately grateful that i live in a country where i, as well as my fellow citizens, are allowed to defend themselves against a potentially tyrannical government and/or any form of tyrannical activity or oppression. The 2nd amendment doesnt specifically give you the right to carry a gun, rather it recognizes a moral right to bear any form of arms against tyranny, and also recognizes your god given right to assemble a well trained group of ordinary fellow citizens to constantly keep each other safe and armed in order to preserve the security of them and their country and freedoms.

My Leftist buddies hate when we start talking about guns, because then i start getting accused of being a closet Republican, which really hurts me, but i dont believe that politics and morals have to come in a package deal...If you meet someone and talk politics, and the first thing they say is something Leftist or Right-wing, i dont believe in assuming their party affiliation right away. Often times thats the case, i get it, but im just not that immediately judgmental, mind you, i used the word IMMEDIATELY. After ive heard someones opinions on EVERY ISSUE, i can get somewhat rude if there is a lot that we disagree with, but i dont judge based off the first thing i hear. But, unfortunately, my fellow Leftists suffer from this problem more than anyone else. So, no matter if you hate me by reading this and not liking that i admit i am a Leftist, find solace in knowing that at least on one issue, im not. Gun Control, according to who Leftists want, would be tyranny, it punishes law abiding gun owners and carriers for the actions of inhumane people who DO NOT CARE what the law is. A dedicated terrorist, domestic or foreign, is going to allocate their weapons however they can.

If guns were outlawed for public or legal purchase, then they would simply go to the black market. All gun control would do is disarm the good guys while the bad guys are able to run amok. I hope gun control advocates can please understand this, or they simply dont care about the 2nd amendment, and they will risk letting only the bad guys have the guns in order to disarm the people so they can continue to overall tyrannical agenda. Guns are part of how our country was started obviously. The battle of Lexington and Concord started because the British soldiers were sent out to find the compounds of the leading revolutionaries and take their weapons, as well as kidnap the top rebel leaders at the compounds. Because the rebels had guns already, and because they stood together in solidarity and werent going to let the British disarm them, the battle started that night, and the rest is known from there. So, tho i am a solid political lefty in every other issue you can imagine, this issue here is one that i side with my opponents. More than likely, that one agreement is not enough to unite people like me and their political foes, but hopefully if we start trying to recognize that we can disagree on A LOT of issues and still be allies, the sooner we can strengthen the overall morale of our country.
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xSharp · 31-35, M
if you are not free to protect your life your family and your property with lethal force via a weapon if necessary then you are not truly free, simple as that.
JuppTupp · C
Therefor there is police - we are not at the wild west
xSharp · 31-35, M
@Dachso: i live in the province with the #1 highest police presence in canada, and they STILL dont make it in time to save children from rape and murder, they are always quick to rush to where the action is they have even recruited cadets whose one single job is to beat the shit out of trouble makers to save the real cops time and effort, so yes id say it IS still the wild west up here in the north. anything else i need to clarify? lol
JuppTupp · C
@xSharp: where is this in Canada ?
xSharp · 31-35, M
@Dachso: bingo, i guess we are not as nice as you all think we are huh?
KevRtr44 · 31-35, M
@Dachso: What a pathetic argument. I hear that all the time when it comes to guns. I have never ran into anyone lawfully carrying a gun that is thinking its the wild west. You think people carry guns to satisfy some mythical macho man persona they are trying to put on, they arent. Its called carrying a gun incase them or their family is attacked. When i carry mine, i sometimes forget that i have it, but if something went down, it would register real quick in my mind that i have a way to defend myself. This notion that people carry guns and pretend its the wild west is a bullshit notion, as if they are gym buffs that are constantly staring at their muscles or something. Nobody i see that carries a gun is focused on shoving that fact into people's minds. What a completely pathetic and primitive argument.
xSharp · 31-35, M
@KevRtr44: in canada it is illegal to own a gun without being subject to more police checks than a registered sex offender AND must have licenses for transport and storage as well as a few other things and god help you if you misplace a paper.. they discourage responsible gun ownership while criminals are running around with ak 47's.. and oh yeah body armor is illegal too btw..
KevRtr44 · 31-35, M
@xSharp: that sucks man as far as the discouraging is concerned. Well, i live in Tennessee, which is one of the 2 most absolutely gun friendly states, besides colorado. In our state, we have a handgun carry permit, which covers any and all styles you wish to carry your gun, open or concealed. in other states, you must have a license for openly carrying, as well as a license for concealed.

In Tennessee, its just a handgun permit in general, you could tie a string to it and carry it hanging out of your ass if you wanted, not that that is the ideal way to carry lol, but you get the point i assume. Even without a license, you can carry a gun in your car, but you ammo has to be at least 3 feet away, your magazine(if its a semi auto pistol) must be at least 3 feet away, which makes it pointless to even have it if its not loaded lol, so thats the only thing that sucks.

If you dont have a handgun permit in TN, and you wish to carry it while travelling, you have to carry it in a way that makes it pointless to your safety, so must people just get a permit if they have a handgun. im not sure what the rifle carry laws are, but i think, you might just be able to carry it around your shoulder if you want, last time i checked. There are all kinds of youtube videos were citizens film themselves while carrying and the police rolling up on them, you should check those out.
KevRtr44 · 31-35, M
@Dachso: oh, and i am a liberal after all, so i actually hate the cops. So, given the response times for police calls during a home invasion or otherwise and public if you dont happen to be near a police station if you are attacked? Its around 5 to maybe even 30 minutes, more than enough time for your attackers or invaders to kill you and your family if you are unarmed. And given that all cops do in America is gun down unarmed citizens and get away with murder, i dont rely on the cops to defend myself.
@Dachso: so...an intruder armed with a gun breaks into your home. You have seconds to respond before the intruder shoots you. Calling 911 will get the police to your home in 5-10 minutes. What are you going to do?
KevRtr44 · 31-35, M
@BizSuitStacy: if i had a gun, i would kill the intruder. Id basically be calling the cops to, in a beat around the bush way, tell them that there will be a dead intruder to scoop up, if you guys get here before i have to do this, then fine, but otherwise, my family will live, the bad guy will die. i would shorten the call up more, then hang up. Or, i would operate based off pure instinct and do my business before calling any cops, and only call them after the fact just to report it.
@KevRtr44: indeed. We have a right to defend ourselves and our families...it's not about which political party someone supports.