So if gun control isn’t the solution what is?

Honest question. I’m pro 2nd amendment but this isn’t sustainable. Arming the teachers isn’t going to help. The guy was wearing body armor, even the cops couldn’t stop him from getting in. More money for cops obviously isn’t the solution for the same reason. This isn’t the first time a shooter wore body armor. A guy had a gun and returned fire in buffalo but the shooter wore body armor there too.

So honestly what is to be done?

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Heartlander

@Montanaman

While this is a super tragic event that will captivate the political squabbling for a few weeks, it's also worth mentioning that ...

About 275 +/- Americans die daily from drug overdose and rarely do politicians or the media give it much attention.

About 20 +/- People are murdered in Chicago alone each and every week, with comparable numbers in many big American cities and it only seems to gain attention near election times. Add all the big cities together and it's a slaughter.

Attention to the school shootings seems to be more about political opportunity than about the tragedies themselves. Like why do some tragedies become headlines while tragedies with far greater loss of life escape with a shrug of the shoulders?

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Heartlander

Attention to the school shootings seems to be more about political opportunity than about the tragedies themselves. Like why do some tragedies become headlines while tragedies with far greater loss of life escape with a shrug of the shoulders?

This is quite the statement when you are living in the leading western country (BY FAR btw) when it comes to this particulair phenomena. But I guess it's easier to talk about other things then to adress this particulair issue.

Heartlander

@Kwek00

We can't have a reasonable discussion on this subject because politicians and their media pals control the points of discussion. Of which there is always but one.

But I can imagine a few reasons why there is no public discussion about the horrendous misery inflicted by killer drugs or the crime waves in our big cities.

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Heartlander No Heartlander.... we can't have a reasonable discussion because people like yourself keep bringing up claims that make no sense and pretend that they are real because the 2nd amendement needs to be protected at all cost. Even with ridiculous arguments. That's why a real discussion can't take place.

You can blame it on the politicians as much as you want... but what is really going on is that a segment of the population is unable to do some self reflection. They are unable too, because they value themselves so highly that their choices and political opinions are just unable to have real life consequences. So every time toppics like this come up, it ends up with "what about?", "blame the other" and arguments that are down right shortsighted and ridiculous.

Also... America has been waging a war on drugs for how many years now? Pretending that this hasn't been adressed by several administrations is kinda ridiculous. At best you can call it apathy because all these measures that were taken didn't really seem to have worked out so well.

Heartlander

@Kwek00

The wars on drugs had much the same effects as our war on alcohol. They created and swelled a permanent criminal class that rules much of America. And I would imagine for the same reasons.

The war on firearms is going that same direction.

On reflection, it seems like we can't fairly discuss any of America's ills because politicians and their media pals control the talking points.

For a glimpse at how control of the talking points is so hoarded by leftist, notice how fast they are trying to turn Elon Musk into a super villain. Geez, when the left turns a planet-saving maker of EVs into a villain it's pretty obvious where that 3rd rail is :)

Kwek00 · 41-45, M

@Heartlander

The war on firearms is going that same direction.

Strange that this doesn't happen in the rest of the developed nations... kinda wonders what makes America so "special" then.

Oh more what aboutisms and blaming forces outside our tribe... who would have thought we had to deal with that when it comes to this toppic.