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So if gun control isn’t the solution what is?

Honest question. I’m pro 2nd amendment but this isn’t sustainable. Arming the teachers isn’t going to help. The guy was wearing body armor, even the cops couldn’t stop him from getting in. More money for cops obviously isn’t the solution for the same reason. This isn’t the first time a shooter wore body armor. A guy had a gun and returned fire in buffalo but the shooter wore body armor there too.

So honestly what is to be done?
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TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
Is getting rid of criminals
NoahB · 26-30, M
@TheRascallyOne what does that mean?
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@NoahB hard on crime laws
NoahB · 26-30, M
@TheRascallyOne what does that mean? Just lock everyone up for any little thing?
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@NoahB No but when people do bad things they need to be punished
NoahB · 26-30, M
@TheRascallyOne did the shooter in Texas do something bad they didn’t go to jail for?
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@NoahB i don't know yet
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@TheRascallyOne The US has one of the largest prison population of the western world and some states still have a death sentence. And yet... people keep dieing by guns. So yeah... something about: [i]"The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.".[/i]
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@Kwek00 That's why I propose the human blender
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@TheRascallyOne You already have a death sentence. Not to mention that all these punishments come AFTER the fact. It's so crazy to me, that people that believe in stronger punishment, rarely think about measures that have preventive benefits. No matter how hard you punish people AFTER the facts, there will always be a moment where the facts take place.
TheRascallyOne · 31-35, M
@Kwek00 That's what I propose making a blender and putting the worst people we have into the blender
Kwek00 · 41-45, M
@TheRascallyOne The "worst" people? LOL ... How naieve.

Every year, there are court cases of normal people that never did anything wrong. That live a "normal" life, but at some point get emotional. For all kinds of things. They loose their job, their partner cheated on them, someone did something cruel to them, ... you name it. Any reason that gives someone a hard feeling of "injustice" or angers people or creates a feeling of revenge... something that makes them so emo that ratio is out of the door. And in that moment of extreme emotional outburst, commit a terrible crime.

And in court, people understand this. People understand that sometimes human beings can just snap. They aren't evil, they aren't inherrently bad, these aren't "the worst" people. But they got extremely angry or depressed over something, and in that period commited a serious crime. In certain cases this emotional outburst is taking into account, exactly because it lowers the control a person has over themselves. It's a moment of temporarily insanity, or at least a moment where rational thought just isn't there and thus people can't make calculated reasonable choices.

Courts recognise this, psychologists recognise this, ... but when it comes to a segment of the population this thing that is reconised by people that deal with these situation and study them, doesn't excist. This segment lives in this fantasy world that you can also find inside the writings of early liberal writers. Where the idea is that all people are rational and make rational descisions all the time. And in this fantasy world, the only people that can do wrong are those that are inherrently bad people because it can't be anything else? Because people are reasonable all the time... so the only people that can do wrong are those that are "inherently" evil, because they are evil in their reasoning. And in that world, everyone can have a gun because only the inherently evil people will be a danger. That good people can just snap just can't be... because everyone is reasonable all the time. But yeah... it's a fantasy. Snap out of it.