Even The Flu Is Political-

How long do you suppose it will be before the left starts forcing things to cancel or be closed?

I don't mean to minimize this thing, but it really seems to me that the left in particular is kinda going overboard. Just like they go overboard during any other crisis situation.

When there is a shooting - they call for gun control before the dead are at room temperature.

When the president makes a phone call, they deny thaat transcripts are real and make shit up.

When their candidate loses, they make shit up and try to impeach the winner.

When a storm is brewing, it's named the storm of the century and reminded that if we would simply adopt an 1850's life style, everything would be fine.

This time its illness. Cold and flu season is at least as old as I am. I remember people getting colds and the flu for as long as I can remember. Sometimes it was reportedly worse than other years. Do you remember the swine flu epidemic - 2009? I don't either - not really. I mean I remember hearing about it. I looked it up and I guess Obama's CDC never did a complete synopsis of it. But later they estimated that between 7,070 and 13,930 deaths were attributable to H1N1 flu from April to 14 November 2009. And nobody panicked. Life went on.

But, Trump is the president now. And they never will let a crisis go to waste. All kinds of stuff has closed down and been cancelled already - and you know it's pressure from the media and the left. And, it's having the desired effect - hurting the economy - Trumps trump card.

So, how long before they try to legislate forced closings, behavior modification for all of us, to stick a fork in the economy, once and for all?

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Magenta · F

I agree with most of this, except the Trump part. I don't believe it's manipulative to hurt the economy.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Magenta [quote] I don't believe it's manipulative to hurt the economy.[/quote]

Is that what you meant to say?
What [u]would [/u]it be if one intentionally hurt the economy?

Magenta · F

@Budwick Perhaps I didn't word it right.
Intentionally trying to hurt the economy through those means would be manipulation. And I don't feel that is what he is doing. 🤷🏼‍♀️

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Magenta Yeah, OK, thanks.
I don't think Trump is trying to hurt the economy either.

Magenta · F

@Budwick I must have misunderstood your initial comments in the next to last paragraph. I understand now.

Beyond the political part, I agree. I don't want to be insensitive, but it's being blow up and dramatized into something akin to the plague.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@Magenta Thanks for your reply.
I think we're closer in thought than I originally thought too.
It's a balancing act - I realize that this thing has killed some people - of course that's bad. But, it's a flu! Flu takes some down every year. Not that those victims don't matter - but shutting down everything just seems an over reaction.

Honestly - I don't know where the line should be drawn. I do know that when government can overnight suddenly dictate where we can go / not go - it's a little uneasy for me.

Have a great day - and again, thanks for your reply.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@Budwick it’s not that it’s deadly across the board.

It’s that it overwhelms hospital systems don’t that many of the sick cannot be treated.

Northern Italy has some of the best healthy in the world and they are effectively letting the very sick die because they are being forced to ration treatment.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

Budwick · 70-79, M

@JoeyFoxx [quote]it’s not that it’s deadly across the board. [/quote]

I know!
Neither was the Swine Flu or the common cold. And there was no orchestrated panic over them. I think everyone is over reacting.
I find it troubling that over night government has swept in and taken over everything - trying to freeze our movement etc.

My post wasn't in regards to Italy. They didn't take the same actions Trump did - travel ban to/from China. He may have saved thousands of American lives and was labeled xenophobic for doing so.

So, Italy has the beast health program in the world, and they are rationing treatment. Do you see the irony in what you wrote there?
I mean - I used YOUR words, and you obviously are blinded and are embracing leftist stuff like government health care.

Please, use what ever objectivity you have left and do some self reflection.

Magenta · F

@Budwick Thank you! :-)
Yes I concur.
I'm not trying to minimize it or not have empathy, but I'm not dramatizing and magnifying it either.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@Budwick the swine flu wasn’t nearly this contagious

Go ahead and pull phrases out of context.

If you’re telling me that your health shouldn’t be important to the rest of us (you are in the risk age group), then just say it out loud and this conversation is over.

Budwick · 70-79, M

@JoeyFoxx Well, you know everything but, it infected 50 million in the USA - that's what about 100,000 times worse than corona? And Swine killed 10,000 - corona isn't done but 40 people have dies - all over 50 years of age.

Every ones health is important douchebag - All I'm asking is that you and the other Chicken Littles put things into perspective a bit - and remember, the goal is for everyone to work together to get through the crisis. The goal is not to make Trump look bad. {go ahead - twist those words around - you know what I mean - but go ahead twist 'em]

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@Budwick dude. I’m not chicken littling.

You’re comparing numbers of an evolving infection to one that completed. Apples and oranges.

From a virology perspective, coronavirus is more contagious while also being harder to recognize because people can be contagious before having symptoms or even without symptoms at all.

It’s not a flu. It’s different.

Without the efforts to flatten the curve, hospitals will not have the capacity to deal with a huge spike in patients.

Period.

There is nothing political about it, unless you WANT it to be political.

Raythedevil · 56-60, M

@Budwick We have no idea how many people really are infected, nor how many more will be infected. COVID19 seems to be way more virulent than even the 'swine flu'.

JoeyFoxx · 51-55, M

@Magenta do you still believe this?

Raythedevil · 56-60, M

@Budwick Trump is the one who usually makes Trump look bad, hate to tell ya.