Gun control in the US.
Is there a good argument for NOT limiting the weapons to which civilians have access? Like these AR-15s or whatever. How is making them illegal a bad thing?
Tell me!
Tell me!
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room101 · 51-55, M
@Scribbles Amen to that.
A couple of nights ago, I watched a TV documentary (it was originally produced by HBO) called "Requiem For The Dead: An American Spring 2014". It showed the gun deaths in America during the period 20th March to 20th June 2014. There was no narrative, no commentary, no message or agenda being pushed. Simply the events as they unfolded, as they occurred, and their brief aftermath. All of the footage was taken from social media, news reports, police reports and the recordings of calls to 911.
The shootings ranged from accidental to murder/suicides to gang related to "simple" murder. One guy was doing something with his gun when it went off, the bullet travelled to the next room where it hit his wife who was quietly watching the TV. She died. Another was of two young kids who were playing with their fathers loaded gun (which was under the bed - he had another handgun sitting on a dresser). One kid shot and killed the other.
It went on and on and on. One senseless death after another. With every type of gun imaginable being used.
More than 8,000 people were killed by guns during those few short months. Approximately 32,000 people are shot and killed every year in America. That's an average of 88 deaths per day. There are currently 310 million guns legally circulating in America. That's one for every man, woman and child.
FFS WHY?
A couple of nights ago, I watched a TV documentary (it was originally produced by HBO) called "Requiem For The Dead: An American Spring 2014". It showed the gun deaths in America during the period 20th March to 20th June 2014. There was no narrative, no commentary, no message or agenda being pushed. Simply the events as they unfolded, as they occurred, and their brief aftermath. All of the footage was taken from social media, news reports, police reports and the recordings of calls to 911.
The shootings ranged from accidental to murder/suicides to gang related to "simple" murder. One guy was doing something with his gun when it went off, the bullet travelled to the next room where it hit his wife who was quietly watching the TV. She died. Another was of two young kids who were playing with their fathers loaded gun (which was under the bed - he had another handgun sitting on a dresser). One kid shot and killed the other.
It went on and on and on. One senseless death after another. With every type of gun imaginable being used.
More than 8,000 people were killed by guns during those few short months. Approximately 32,000 people are shot and killed every year in America. That's an average of 88 deaths per day. There are currently 310 million guns legally circulating in America. That's one for every man, woman and child.
FFS WHY?
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@room101I've watched that too.
WHY? Idiocy like this I think: (This one is by one of the most retarded republicans and politicians I've ever heard of...hard to believe he was a candidate for president. 🙄) [media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaZGaJrd3x8]
ok, I'm probably exaggerating..I'm just worked up because I argued again with my Dad over the phone a couple days ago. I was talking about a couple interesting things from my latest active shooter response training. And He wants to buy a handgun (for safety basically is his argument - as he and mom are getting older). We stalemated in our discussion, but I think I emotionally manipulated him just a enough at the end that he won't buy one yet. It just seems so ridiculous (Though I wish I could think of a solution he'll accept that would make him and mom feel safer without a gun) and all I can think is that one of them would die in an accident with it or something equally tragic. Idk
Actually the biggest problem I run into is that Americans are obsessed with American myths about guns (I'm probably still a bit brainwashed about a few things), and Americans refuse to look at the fact that the world is bigger then America. Australia made a huge leap when the Government bought back guns for example.
Mostly I think it would feel weird to live in a gunless country for a hundred reasons I could list, But I can count people I know who would be alive if guns weren't everywhere....and they are enough of a reason for me to think it is a goal worth pursuing.
WHY? Idiocy like this I think: (This one is by one of the most retarded republicans and politicians I've ever heard of...hard to believe he was a candidate for president. 🙄) [media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaZGaJrd3x8]
ok, I'm probably exaggerating..I'm just worked up because I argued again with my Dad over the phone a couple days ago. I was talking about a couple interesting things from my latest active shooter response training. And He wants to buy a handgun (for safety basically is his argument - as he and mom are getting older). We stalemated in our discussion, but I think I emotionally manipulated him just a enough at the end that he won't buy one yet. It just seems so ridiculous (Though I wish I could think of a solution he'll accept that would make him and mom feel safer without a gun) and all I can think is that one of them would die in an accident with it or something equally tragic. Idk
Actually the biggest problem I run into is that Americans are obsessed with American myths about guns (I'm probably still a bit brainwashed about a few things), and Americans refuse to look at the fact that the world is bigger then America. Australia made a huge leap when the Government bought back guns for example.
Mostly I think it would feel weird to live in a gunless country for a hundred reasons I could list, But I can count people I know who would be alive if guns weren't everywhere....and they are enough of a reason for me to think it is a goal worth pursuing.
room101 · 51-55, M
@Scribbles Conversely, it's unthinkable for me to live in a country where guns are readily available.
I was out today in Central London with my cousin and his family and my girlfriend. The streets were crowded with Christmas shoppers, tourists and people just getting into the Christmas spirit (there was a little Christmas market in Leicester Square which we visited). In all of those crowds, I saw two police officers. All they had was their handcuffs, their collapsible batons and their cans of pepper spray. I cannot begin to tell you how proud I felt of the great British bobby and the fact that I live in a country where people can do such things freely and without fear.
As I've told you previously, I've visited America a number of times and I've always been confronted with guns. Sorry, but that's no way to live.
I was out today in Central London with my cousin and his family and my girlfriend. The streets were crowded with Christmas shoppers, tourists and people just getting into the Christmas spirit (there was a little Christmas market in Leicester Square which we visited). In all of those crowds, I saw two police officers. All they had was their handcuffs, their collapsible batons and their cans of pepper spray. I cannot begin to tell you how proud I felt of the great British bobby and the fact that I live in a country where people can do such things freely and without fear.
As I've told you previously, I've visited America a number of times and I've always been confronted with guns. Sorry, but that's no way to live.
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@room101 I'm not a fan of hunting espeically for sport or just to kill something, but as a kid I always liked the fantasy of a boomerang coming back and whapping those idiots for hunting in the first place.
Also, I maybe liked playing catch with boomerangs and frisbees sometimes...
Also, I maybe liked playing catch with boomerangs and frisbees sometimes...
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@room101 I have to mention on this thread that recently my work got two photo christmas cards from this Caucasian family. It's their twin girls (6 years old) posed smiling arms around and holding up the dead deer's head with a rifle posed nearby. I refused to put it up anywhere. It's beyond fucked up and creepy as hell. I never thought I'd get that redneck shit in an urban area...
room101 · 51-55, M
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@room101 Yeah, there's some very weird ideas and people here. Lots of people view hunting as being the same as going fishing. Others glorify the idea that guns and glorified violence, grants you power, respect, and fear and a different if dirty, path to a richer life and one where you won't feel like a victim...etc. As for the sex thing...some people are just such f'ing control freaks about the human body or sex...like they need to ward it all off like its an evil spirit come to possess their children or something🙄. Really they just need to chill out.