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Lickitysplit · 70-79, M
Australian Gun Law Update
Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts....
From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real
figures from Down Under.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to
surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers
more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.(Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady
decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.
Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public
safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns....' You won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the State Assembly disseminating this information.
The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the
hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!
Will you be one of the sheep to turn yours in?
WHY? You will need it.
Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts....
From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real
figures from Down Under.
It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to
surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own government, a program costing Australia taxpayers
more than $500 million dollars.
The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.(Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady
decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.
Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public
safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns....' You won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the State Assembly disseminating this information.
The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the
hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!
Will you be one of the sheep to turn yours in?
WHY? You will need it.
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Lickitysplit · 70-79, M
You did not read me saying that murder or violent crime rates are the same between the US and other nations with the main difference being the weapons used. That is not true and I have not said that. In fact, that makes a large part of my point. You cannot compare violent crime rates between the US and other nations and say that taking away American's guns would positively affect those rates of violent crime. The problem is not one of more guns, it is a cultural issue that has far more to do with the size and population of the US compared with these other nations, the excessive level of cultural diversity in the US compared with nations having far more homogeneous populations, the extremely high level of immigration in the US, and numerous other considerations.
The crime rate, in all categories of crime, is far higher in the US compared to Britain, Australia, and other nations in the British Commonwealth. The US crime rates also are far higher than most Western European nations, but not higher than most nations in North America, Central America, South America, and the Caribbean. The per capita rate of murder by gun is WAY higher in Mexico than in the US.
As far as the links you provided, as far as I can see, none of them particularly proves that the rate of violent crimes declined as a result of confiscation of guns. In fact, based on a fairly cursory look at the information at those links, it looks to me as though crime in general in the UK declined overall and gun crimes did not decline at a more rapid rate than non-gun crimes.
The crime rate, in all categories of crime, is far higher in the US compared to Britain, Australia, and other nations in the British Commonwealth. The US crime rates also are far higher than most Western European nations, but not higher than most nations in North America, Central America, South America, and the Caribbean. The per capita rate of murder by gun is WAY higher in Mexico than in the US.
As far as the links you provided, as far as I can see, none of them particularly proves that the rate of violent crimes declined as a result of confiscation of guns. In fact, based on a fairly cursory look at the information at those links, it looks to me as though crime in general in the UK declined overall and gun crimes did not decline at a more rapid rate than non-gun crimes.
