The government is deporting students with expired student visas
That's sad and crazy
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann Those students are obviously still in school to be enrolled at the college and in the middle of classes. Would you love to only get part of an education and then leave? At least they're getting educated and a degree.
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger if they are legal immigrants with student visas. They must follow the law and have their visas renewed, and must follow immigration laws and if they choose not to, then it is legal to deport them. They don’t have to commit a violent crime to be deported
It is a privilege to live in the United States. It is not an entitlement.
Are the immigrant’s paying for their education themselves ? Or is the government paying for it?
It is a privilege to live in the United States. It is not an entitlement.
Are the immigrant’s paying for their education themselves ? Or is the government paying for it?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@missyann And the United States could renew those visas at any given time for the purpose of those students still getting their degrees. You know the real reason the govt chooses not to give students due process and weigh their cases individually, don't lie lol. Not every immigration case should be treated as the exact same way
What is it with this assumption that MAGA has, that anyone not white receives everything for free?
International students typically pay full out-of-state tuition at public universities and often pay more at private ones. They do not qualify for federal financial aid like Pell Grants.
That said, some may receive scholarships funded by the university, private donors, or their home country.
In rare cases, graduate students on research assistantships may receive tuition waivers and stipends but these are usually earned through merit-based programs, not handouts.
Sure, living in the U.S. isn’t a guaranteed right for non-citizens. But that doesn’t mean we should treat people who follow the rules with suspicion or hostility. Immigration policy should be based on fairness and contribution, not on moral superiority by a bunch of xenophobes.
Also, everything is a privilege, if someone wanted to come in and take your rights, they could. If we were at war and another country took over, you wouldn't have rights or at least not in the way you're used to. If for some reason, Trump gets rid of Medicare, people say the same thing about health and education. Some don't believe it at all. I've heard conservatives argue that health is a privilege and that everything we have are privileges.
This is why due process and defending the constitution is important is precisely this.
Are the immigrant’s paying for their education themselves ? Or is the government paying for it?
What is it with this assumption that MAGA has, that anyone not white receives everything for free?
International students typically pay full out-of-state tuition at public universities and often pay more at private ones. They do not qualify for federal financial aid like Pell Grants.
That said, some may receive scholarships funded by the university, private donors, or their home country.
In rare cases, graduate students on research assistantships may receive tuition waivers and stipends but these are usually earned through merit-based programs, not handouts.
It is a privilege to live in the United States. It is not an entitlement.
Sure, living in the U.S. isn’t a guaranteed right for non-citizens. But that doesn’t mean we should treat people who follow the rules with suspicion or hostility. Immigration policy should be based on fairness and contribution, not on moral superiority by a bunch of xenophobes.
Also, everything is a privilege, if someone wanted to come in and take your rights, they could. If we were at war and another country took over, you wouldn't have rights or at least not in the way you're used to. If for some reason, Trump gets rid of Medicare, people say the same thing about health and education. Some don't believe it at all. I've heard conservatives argue that health is a privilege and that everything we have are privileges.
This is why due process and defending the constitution is important is precisely this.
missyann · 56-60
@SatanBurger Our healthcare system is messed up in this country, but Medichare for everyone is not the answer. Free every thing is not the answer because anything free someone is paying for it.
You are the one who is obsessed with the
“ white privilege “ I don’t care if you’re black, white brown, purple or green a Citizen, or an immigrant no one is entitled to a free higher education.
We have to take care of our own citizens first. I’m not saying that people cannot donate to help immigrants and there are a lot of churches and societies that do help. We just don’t hear about them. We have to take care of our own citizens before we open our borders to immigrants. We have to get control of our borders and the bad elements coming into our country
President Trump is trying to do this
Some of the immigrants being deported have deportation orders from years ago
Some under the Biden administration. There just wasn’t anyone to ensure that they were deported. DHS and ICE has the list of these people. Some haven’t committed any crimes since they received the order, but the fact that they are here illegally justifies deporting them
Unless you are disabled, or elderly public assistance is short term help it is not meant to be a generational way of life. I understand one unplanned pregnancy and needing assistance for a short time, but there is no reason that the American taxpayers should be forced to pay for women to have multiple pregnancies.
Call me racist if you want. I don’t care. I know that I’m not.
You are the one who is obsessed with the
“ white privilege “ I don’t care if you’re black, white brown, purple or green a Citizen, or an immigrant no one is entitled to a free higher education.
We have to take care of our own citizens first. I’m not saying that people cannot donate to help immigrants and there are a lot of churches and societies that do help. We just don’t hear about them. We have to take care of our own citizens before we open our borders to immigrants. We have to get control of our borders and the bad elements coming into our country
President Trump is trying to do this
Some of the immigrants being deported have deportation orders from years ago
Some under the Biden administration. There just wasn’t anyone to ensure that they were deported. DHS and ICE has the list of these people. Some haven’t committed any crimes since they received the order, but the fact that they are here illegally justifies deporting them
Unless you are disabled, or elderly public assistance is short term help it is not meant to be a generational way of life. I understand one unplanned pregnancy and needing assistance for a short time, but there is no reason that the American taxpayers should be forced to pay for women to have multiple pregnancies.
Call me racist if you want. I don’t care. I know that I’m not.