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I Question My Government

The American form of democracy is a deeply flawed form of government. It forces us to choose between a tiny number of candidates, which often enough comes down to choosing between the lesser of 2 evils - or, like in the recent election, a choice between an overt not-quite-evil-but-still-a-total-narcissist and a covert evil. It's an utterly binary, polarized system that tricks everyone into focusing all of their efforts on the fight between red and blue, while ignoring all of the deeper issues.

It's a system that, by its nature, engenders hypocrisy and facade at the highest level by trying to force checks and balances onto our leaders. The kinds of people who rise to power in our system are the kinds of people to whom checks and balances are anathema - because the kinds of people who rise to power beyond a certain point will always be the kinds of people who desire power. Checks and balances are the opposite of power - that's the whole point of them. So of course our leaders hate them. How could they not? But our leaders can't openly defy those checks and balances - they have to be seen as loving and supporting the system, not trying to get around it. So inevitably they weave a facade - saying all of the right things to the voters out of one side of their mouths, while gathering all the power they can out of the other side. That metaphor was kind of broken, but you get the idea.

I could go on and on about how the only people our national leaders interact with are the other political people in Washington, which inevitably creates a mile-wide disconnect between them and the real world, but that's actually not the point I'm meandering toward with this story. The point I'm trying to make is this: The American system of democracy is a deeply flawed, corrupt, hypocritical nightmare. The only thing that's worse than the American system of democracy is pretty much every other form of government.

Naive, idealistic people get this idea in their heads that just because something isn't perfect, that they should fight against it. That they should try to replace it with something else. But the truth is that government is inevitable, anarchy cannot exist, *shouldn't* exist - and so therefore we have to live under some sort of governmental system.

American Democracy was born in the hearts and minds of people who had just seen their friends suffer and die in a war against a monarch's dream of empire. They had seen firsthand the destructiveness of too much power concentrated on too few people. They had seen exactly how dangerous government can be. So when they forged our system of government, they did something that is largely unique in the whole of human history - they forged a system of power specifically designed to limit power. To diffuse it as widely as possible, among as many people as possible. Human nature, and the nature of power, have corrupted that system over the centuries. Fear of communism gave the president the power to unilaterally declare war. Fear of terrorism has begun to destroy the ideal of innocent until proven guilty. The power to weave war against others, spy on ourselves, and imprison anyone within our borders, has become concentrated into fewer and fewer hands, with less and less people to stand against them if they use it destructively.

Our system is deeply broken - but so is every other system. And unlike most - ours does its best to keep in check the worst impulses of our human nature. Our system is broken *despite* how it's set up, not because of it.
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ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
I being Libertarian (the original idea was that we were anarchists) isn't really the truth in a more modern sense. I believe in as a little government as possible but recognize that some government is needed.
I tend to think we are more a republic not a democracy. Though neither seems to hold water now. It is inherently flawed on almost all levels of government. Even local small town government has come to a level of overreach, such as the trash inspector stopping at random houses to go through your garbage, looking for "evidence" of a random accidental recyclable put in your garbage. "Fined, fined" she is screaming inwardly.
(This is happening here.)
Is is unfix able? Maybe. America was an experiment. I doubt the founding fathers ever expected that the Constitution would remain unchanged.
BlueDiver · 36-40, M
Yup, that's why I said "American democracy" instead of democracy. I use the term almost like a proper noun - like how if a guy's named Steve, I'll call him Steve, not because he's a Steve, but because that's just what he's called.

I'm not Libertarian, but I do agree with a lot of Libertarian viewpoints. And it's funny, there have been a bunch of times where I've put out libertarian viewpoints to liberals and conservatives alike, but I don't frame them in political terms - I just say them in plain English - and the people I'm talking to agree with them wholeheartedly, never realizing that what they were agreeing with was a Libertarian viewpoint.
ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
Exactly. It's interesting how when you strip away the "politic speak" how common sense and reason can be enjoyed by people of either party. One of the many reasons I am sick of politics and despise them in general.
BlueDiver · 36-40, M
It's human nature - we instinctively divide into groups, fit ourselves into the standard beliefs of our chosen group, and push away the outsiders who don't believe what we do. Strip away the "politic speak" (I like that term), and that instinct to push away the ideas of the outsider never gets activated, which lets people actually listen.
ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
Yes it is human nature, it probably goes back to ancient cultures where it was safety in numbers and expected. That might always exist especially if it's actually DNA related (whole different subject sorry lol) but with my mindset I find I can get along with people who are different from me, as long as they are some core interests or commonalities at work. I am not inclined to force people to think as I do, which leaves me the ability to like what I like, and not worry about what I don't agree with. I wasn't always like that when I was younger, but over time we change our views.
BlueDiver · 36-40, M
I think that it definitely does come down to DNA - natural selection decided that it was a survival trait. People - and our evolutionary ancestors - who were less resistant to outside forces didn't make the cut, in Darwinian terms.

I think that that's a pretty common Libertarian trait - the idea of live and let live. It's hard to want the government to stay out of your business if you're all about getting into other people's business.

Heh - a big part of that is that almost everyone is either a liberal or a conservative - being Libertarian makes you choose between learning to get along with people who see things differently than you, or being a political outcast. I live in a very liberal area, so you can be damn sure that I've learned to voice my often-Libertarian viewpoints in ways that aren't going to get me constant backlash.
ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
Yes it very much is. Live and let live. Stay out of my business and I stay out of yours. If people could live that way, SO many issues would be resolved, especially concerning gay marriage (as an example)
I am rural so people are conservative here or libertarian. At the last tally Gary Johnson got a LOT of votes overall from N.J. which is surprising considering that N.J. mostly votes democrat. Further still, three counties went all Trump.
You are wise lol. This topic is so hot button, especially now.
BlueDiver · 36-40, M
I live in a not-so-rural part of California, so aside from the Governator (a 2/3rds liberal state elects a conservative because he was in movies - yes, a majority of people apparently do make political decisions based on that asinine of a reason), aside from him, there's never a question as to what party will get California's vote.

Yeah, elections are always polarizing - they have been for a long time - but I think that this last election took it to a whole other level. Trump represented something different - a sort of moment-to-moment authenticity (at least as much as a politician is capable of) that really appeals to a lot of people, but that offends a lot of people too. I can understand why a lot of people voted for him. I personally think that he's a blatant, overt narcissist, and that Hilary's a covert narcissist, and so I didn't vote for either of them.
ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
The "Governator" lol I love it!

I agree with your definition of both of them. I think they both have serious issues. I suppose the only thing I can say for Trump is that he isn't establishment? Whether that proves to be a positive remains to be seen. I think personally he would be unbearable. Then again, I also think that of Hillary.

I've seen videos online of people doing off the cuff interviews in Cali, and it amazes me to see how many didn't know who the VP was, but they could tell you everything about the celebrities, lol.
BlueDiver · 36-40, M
I think that there will be some positive aspects to him not being establishment. But at the same time, that lack of establishment-based experience - combined with his ego and his willingness to take overt action that a more covert narcissist might be held back from for the sake of image - has the potential for a great deal of danger and disaster.

Wow, it didn't click until you said that, but I just realized something. I should really be ashamed of this, but I'm honestly not - I have no idea who the vice president is either. This is the first election since I came of age that I've so avoided paying any attention to that I actually don't know who the bloody VP is. That's kind of a trip, realizing that, and realizing that I've reached a point of disillusionment that I see it as almost a badge of pride. That probably makes me look bad, but whatever - it's how I see it.
ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
I agree with you, it's really a complete unknown how it will go.
Really? You have good insight so that does surprise me some. It's easy to become disillusioned, and honestly I don't think younger generations are being taught or care very little.
A generational age gap? lol I am possibly a decade older than you.
BlueDiver · 36-40, M
I'm in the lower part of my age range, so you probably are a good decade older than me.

I think that most of my insight comes from a general insight into human nature, rather than from knowing a lot of the particulars about this election. If you've seen one narcissist, you've seen them all. If you understand the nature of power and the inherent narcissism and stupidity of large groups, then you don't need to know all of the particulars to know which direction things are going to go in - which direction they always inevitably go in if you set up the first dominos a certain way - I didn't need to look very long or hard at Trump and Hillary to know what they are, and what that inevitably means. All of history and all of the world is just the same set of stories played out again and again, with new actors and new bells and whistles.
ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
I think you are right:)
An understanding of human nature or at the least a willingness to try and understand human nature is much more important than understanding an electoral process because, once you can do that it will reflect upon all areas of life.