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Trump Vs Biden SW Poll

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Would you vote for Trump or Biden in a potential rematch?
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Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
Trump baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All these Trump haters hate him for how he acts not his policies.
His policies were solid and good for the country.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Dainbramadge Especially the economic policies that resulted in the biggest annual budget deficit in history, an increase in the unemployment rate, and the only president to lose jobs during his term in the post-WWII era.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@windinhishair WTF are you talking about. You lefties just make shit up and pretend it is true.
Lowest unemployment.
Best living conditions.
Obummer made the largest deficit.

President Donald Trump

Total Actual plus Budgeted = $6.612 trillion, a 33% increase

President Barack Obama

Total = $6.781 trillion, a 58% increase
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Dainbramadge I am sorry that you don't like the facts. It isn't surprising that you would ignore them.

First, the biggest annual budget deficit was $3.132 trillion under Trump in 2020. Obama's largest was $1.413 trillion in 2009, and he wasn't even president for that entire year, so that reflects Bush's policies before he left office. The numbers you presented appear to be for their entire terms in office. So what you're saying is Obama had essentially the same impact on the national debt increase in 8 years that Trump did in 4? You disproved your own point.

The unemployment rate in January 2017, the month that Trump took office, was 4.7%. The unemployment rate in January 2021, the month he thankfully left the White House, was 6.4%. It increased by 1.7% during Trump's failed single term in office.

The net job loss during Trump's presidency was 3.003 million. Every other president since Herbert Hoover added jobs during his presidency. Even George W. Bush added 89,000 jobs during his 8 years in office.

You are wrong on all counts.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@windinhishair
Paychecks grew faster than inflation. Average weekly earnings for all workers were up 8.7% after inflation.
After-tax corporate profits went up, and the stock market set new records. The S&P 500 index rose 67.8%.
Home prices rose 27.5%, and the homeownership rate increased 2.1 percentage points to 65.8%.

Obummers debt increase was 58% for four years. Do you know how to divide??? What's that number????

Life in the U.S. was much better under Trump.

Under Trump’s presidency, U.S. unemployment fell to historical lows of 3.5 percent in September 2019. U.S. unemployment rose to 3.6 percent in the fourth quarter of 2019 but fell to 3.5 percent in January 2020. The unemployment rate stayed steady at 3.5 percent in February 2020.
When the COVID-19 pandemic started, the U.S. unemployment rate rose sharply to 4.4 percent in March. The rate rose to 14.8 percent in April 2020, which was the peak during the pandemic.
Guess you forgot that little twist to the unemployment rate huh???
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@windinhishair Congress passed the $2 trillion CARES Act, along with other stimulus measures. The combination of reduced tax receipts and increased stimulus spending created record deficit levels.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Dainbramadge Unfortunately, a president doesn't get to cherrypick their data, nor do you. I could have chosen to present Obama's annual budget deficit of $442 billion in 2015, but that would be disingenuous, just as your tepid attempt was to minimize Trump's annual budget deficits, which were the highest in history. They also increased every year he was in office, which will be hard for even you to blame on covid.
@Dainbramadge The stock market reached its highest level under Biden, so by your own standard, he’s a better president than Trump.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@LeopoldBloom

NASDAQ 137.56% 8.06% Trump +129.49%
DOW 56.00% 12.57% Trump +43.43%
S&P 67.26% 19.66% Trump +47.59%
Graylight · 51-55, F
@Dainbramadge He never had policies. That much he admitted himself.
FreestyleArt · 31-35, M
@Dainbramadge more likely it's just here. A lot of losers here hates Trump
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@FreestyleArt I have found that most of the people that don't like Trump feel intimidated by his course touch.
Mean Orange Man. LOL
AbbeyRhode · F
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@AbbeyRhode

LOL. I didn't try to match the font. :-)
therighttothink50 · 56-60, M
@Dainbramadge
[quote]NASDAQ 137.56% 8.06% Trump +129.49%
DOW 56.00% 12.57% Trump +43.43%
S&P 67.26% 19.66% Trump +47.59%[/quote]

Let's get some numbers from other presidents to put that in context:

[u] JOB CREATION[/u]
Reagan 16.5 million
Clinton 18.6 million
Bush 5.8 million
Obama 8.9 million
Trump NEGATIVE 3 million

[u]YEARLY DEFICIT[/u]
Reagan $79 billion to $152 billion
Clinton lowered our deficit from 255 billion to a $126 billion SURPLUS in 2001
Bush raised deficit from 0 to 1412 billion
Obama lowered deficit from 1412 billion to 585 billion
Trump raised from 585 billion up to ~4000 billion

[u]DJIA[/u]
Jan 20 1981, Reagan takes office 946;
Jan 20 1989, Reagan leaves office 2235;
Up 136% or 11.3% growth per year.
Jan 20 1993, Clinton takes office 3242;
Jan 20 2001, Clinton leaves office 10588;
up 227%, or 15.92% growth per year.
Jan 20 2001, Bush takes office 10588;
Jan 20 2009, Bush leaves office 7949;
NEGATIVE 3.5% per year.
Jan 20 2009, Obama takes office 7949;
Jan 20 2017, Obama leaves office 19827;
up almost 150% over 8 years, or 12.1% per year (1.121^8=2.49).
Jan 20 2017, Trump takes office 19827;
Jan 20 2021, Trump leaves office 30,930;
up 56% over 4 years, or 11.76% growth per year.

Sorry, economically, Trump had nothing over Obama whose economy you guys called "anemic." Here's a little quiz for ya - in the following chart of job creation, spot the pre-pandemic "trump miracle" AKA the point where Trump's policies made a difference in job creation. Can you show us where the "Trump miracle" kicked in?


Yeah, I know, your argument in favor of Trump is based on only picking out the good years under Trump and ignoring the times when bad things are happening. Sorry, that's cherry-picking.