russia is a good example of Communism

Years of communism will:

- Divide and reduce the size of your country
- Instill fear amongst younger generation
- more citizens will escape abroad
- harvest anger and corruption
- harvest narcissism
- encourage never-ending, senseless wars

What else? 😏

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empanadas · 31-35, M

I find it Funny how alot of people who support communism in the west have never actually been to a communist country. Nor, spoken to the locals who aren't paid by the government to say nice things. I have been to Cuba and Venezuela. Spoke with people who weren't afraid to speak their mind to me because they knew I had no ties to the government. At the end, communist governments pretend to care about the well being of it's people. However, it's really the majority of the people who have to share what is given to them. While a small group lives in luxury. There's really no social mobility. Communism on paper sounds nice but in practice, humans will be humans. Corruption is bound to happen.

SW-User

@empanadas Hmmmm I have relatives who were born and raised in the Soviet Union. None of them was paid by the government. In fact, after they moved to Greece, most of them were actually punished (in many "creative" ways including prison, exile and have their right to study in Greece taken away from them) for being communists (even though they weren't). They actually miss growing up there, without denying that poverty was an issue.

empanadas · 31-35, M

@SW-User I think that's messed up that they were punished. I would miss home if that happened to me too. That poverty is probably the reason why they left the Soviet union though. Giving too power much to the state doesn't usually end well. Not saying capitalism is amazing but at least there's social mobility. I don't have to be a doctor working hard and intensive hours while getting as much(or less) as a government taxi driver. There's some good qualities to communism but it doesn't outweigh the bad. Humanity is falsed. Just find it funny how people out in the west preach how amazing Communism is. Meanwhile they in are their fancy hotel rooms and homes in a gated community.

Vivaci

@empanadas Couldn’t agree more. The very fact that gangs rule most of the states in these countries, and anyone (including tourists) could be unfairly detained, imprisoned, harassed over petty excuses make such countries dangerous (and scary) tbh

SW-User

@empanadas I just want to say that no, they didn't leave because of poverty, they were pretty much forced to leave. And my point was that people have different experiences.

empanadas · 31-35, M

@Vivaci yeah I almost got arrested a few times in Cuba because we didn't want to pay a government taxi and tired to get one cheaper. Also I went on Facebook to post a picture of a park and the internet told me they were tracking me. I turned off my phone and ran. The government has too much control in Communist governments.

Vivaci

Right? They’re more like a Military Republic tbh….reminds me of Indonesia. 😖@empanadas

Elessar · 31-35, M

@empanadas People in the west don't have an experience with pure/unregulated capitalism either, as all west countries (including the U.S.) are essentially mixed systems. I think what you're comparing here is authoritarianism vs. democracy, and not really capitalism/fascism vs socialism/communism. I can assure you, from my family's perspective, that the experience of living in a far-right regime isn't any better nor dramatically different compared to the experience you're describing.

Also worth of mention - the only ones who seem okay with the idea to transition from democracy to a regime, in the modern-day west, to the point of staging and failing a coup, certainly weren't left-leaning, let alone communism sympathizers.