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So now there seems to be pretty solid evidence, at least that the media is showing, that trump jr, had info from Russia about dirt on Hillary and wanted to be involved with it. So if this all turns out to be true, is this enough for people to finally see that trump is bad news or is this just more "you lost get over it" type info?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/11/us/politics/trump-russia-email-clinton.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

[quote]The June 3, 2016, email sent to Donald Trump Jr. could hardly have been more explicit: One of his father’s former Russian business partners had been contacted by a senior Russian government official and was offering to provide the Trump campaign with dirt on Hillary Clinton.

The documents “would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” read the email, written by a trusted intermediary, who added, “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

If the future president’s elder son was surprised or disturbed by the provenance of the promised material — or the notion that it was part of an ongoing effort by the Russian government to aid his father’s campaign — he gave no indication.

He replied within minutes: “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”[/quote]

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Ynotisay · M

Flip on FOX for your answer. The people who need to take this seriously are being told it's all a lie. I caught some of Hannity yesterday and my mind was blown at the level of deceit. Of course, they're being told THEY are the "real patriots" in the process.
We're in the midst of a serious, calculated mind fuck.

Pherick · 41-45, M

@Ynotisay So these emails are a lie? But Hillary's emails were all true? :) Interesting the way that works...

Ynotisay · M

@Pherick It's amazing, isn't it? I can't even IMAGINE the shitstorm if it was Obama or Clinton involved in this kind of thing. Or if one of them had lied 1/50th as much as Trump. They'd be burning effigies in the street. I'll just never, EVER understand that way of thinking.

Northwest · M

@Ynotisay Qusai tweeted the contents of the email, this morning (July 11), saying that he wanted to be transparent. Unfortunately for him, he did not do it, until after the NYT reported it. Hannity can deny it as much as he likes. I love it, when the Don or one of his kids, contradict the spin machine's message.

Qusai is now saying that he's misunderstood, despite the fact that the emails and his response are clear.

The spin machine is going full tilt....

Ynotisay · M

@Northwest And they can't turn back from it now. They will deny until the bitter end and after. That's the beautiful thing about having a contrived enemy. There's always someone to blame.

Northwest · M

@Ynotisay They will do that. The important thing is to get our fellow Americans to see this, in a non-confrontational way. You have some hard core people, but for the most part, the people are misinformed and frustrated over why things were not going right (from their perspective).

Ynotisay · M

@Northwest I agree with you in theory but I'd counter that by saying with the MOUNTAIN of evidence available in relation to things like Trump, climate change, the reasons for economic disparity, the insurance and pharma industries and others, there's no amount of one-on-one convincing that can take place. I unfortunately believe that it will take something to become personal for perspectives to change. Sort of like Dick Cheney conspiring against gay people until his daughter came out. Or the "coal miner" realizing that they wouldn't have access to healthcare any longer.

Northwest · M

@Ynotisay coal miners are going to realize soon that there are no cola mines to come back to, and that it was low natural gas prices, not Obama that put them out of work.