Is Trump conrolled by the fossil fuel lobby?

The rest of the G20 (all 19 others) rebuke Trump and continue with the Paris deal.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/08/europe/g20-merkel-trump-communique/index.html

The Paris deal itself is nowhere near strong enough but is at least a step forward. The lobbyists and neo-con pacs who are 'informing' Trump will have none of it though because it threatens their bottom line. Oligarchic cowboy capitalism is killing the planet and Trump is their figurehead.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/30/donald-trump-george-monbiot-misinformation

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lov2smile · 36-40, F

Arrogant leftists who think that by banning the earth’s homemade fuels like coal, oil and gas they can control the climate.

Despite NASA scientists finding global temperatures have only increased 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1880, despite Al Gore and the UN’s serious errors in promising massive climate disasters, despite the fact (from the U.S. Geological Survey among others) that only .038 percent of earth’s atmosphere is actually carbon dioxide so to reduce it would be totally futile, liberals insist that carbon fuels must be eradicated to save the earth.

Since those fuels drive economic prosperity both here and in desperately poor countries, the leftists who like to think they’re compassionate “progressives” are really in the most basic sense anti-progress and anti-poor people.

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Burnley123 · 41-45, M

@lov2smile [quote]Despite NASA scientists finding global temperatures have only increased 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit since 1880[/quote]

Hardly a minor thing. The climate is delicate. For example the Great Barrier Reef is in serious trouble.

[quote]Since those fuels drive economic prosperity both here and in desperately poor countries, the leftists who like to think they’re compassionate “progressives” are really in the most basic sense anti-progress and anti-poor people.[/quote]

The cost of renewable energy continues to go down and fossil fuels have massive subsidies. A climate catastrophe is no good for anyone's prosperity, not least the Third World which would be hit in more places.

I really don't get the idea that leftists care about climate change just to be haters and controllers or whatever. The climate change deniers are directly backed by fossil fuel money. Clear vested interest at work.

room101 · 51-55, M

@lov2smile Sorry but you're wrong on pretty much every point.

Nobody is trying to control the climate. That would be patently absurd.

Nobody is trying to eradicate the use of fossil fuels. We are attempting to reduce their use for two reasons. First, the damage caused to our environment. Second, their supply is not limitless.

Carbon dioxide is one of the trace gases in our atmosphere and, like everything else, it's important. However, we know that the increases in carbon dioxide levels have a direct relationship with temperature increases. Carbon dioxide levels have increased because of the burning of fossil fuels and, perhaps more significantly, deforestation. These are things that we can do something about.

The poorer countries in the world are the ones who are suffering the most. Climate change is affecting their crops, their rainfall, their everything. It's the developed nations who continue to benefit from the use of fossil fuels. And it's often only the very rich who see the full extent of that benefit.

Seeing as you like to quote NASA, perhaps the following link would be of interest.

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/

The fact is, our planets average temperatures are going up year on year.