Would getting rid of Trump make America better for its citizens in material terms?

@RootinTootinHighFalutin: Somewhat. Has she fought for economic equality?

@RootinTootinHighFalutin: Well fighting it and stopping it are two different things. Also as a neoliberal she would do nothing to stop the growing wealth inequality in the US.

@Burnley123:
@thatscottishguy: How would you propose she solve wealth inequality? Btw, I support controlled capitalism.

@RootinTootinHighFalutin: Reinstating a modern version of Glass Steigall, higher taxes on the rich, single payer healthcare and (at a push) a Piketty wealth tax. Its why I support Sanders and Corbyn. I am a progressive on all issues and I think modern liberals need to do more to redistribute wealth. Inequality is increasing massively throughout the west and has done for decades.

@Burnley123: Would single payer healthcare be good for America? Possibly. But we have to be smart. Most Americans instinctively reject anything that would give the government control over a social issue. Obamacare was an essential step in the right direction. Hillary was wise to take it further rather than switch gears and head off into new, uncharted territory. Whether Bernie supporters accept the fact or not, we just aren't there yet. A vote for Bernie, 3rd party or a protest vote was a selfish act and resulted in a disastrous presidency. We'll have to agree to disagree on that.

@RootinTootinHighFalutin: how nice ...you support "controlled capitalism"....meanwhile.....capitalism/greed has gone awry!!!

@RootinTootinHighFalutin: [quote]A vote for Bernie, 3rd party or a protest vote was a selfish act and resulted in a disastrous presidency.[/quote]

You are talking about different things here. I would have voted for Bernie in the Democratic Primary had I been American but I would also have voted Hillary in the General Election to keep out Trump.

Its hard to say whether American is there or not. From Bernie's support it appears that millenials are moving in a leftward direction. Its the same with Corbyn's support in the UK. In addition, I believe that single payer has a majority of support in American opinion polls.

The difference between our opinions is about strategy more than values and as you say we can agree to disagree.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/06/23/public-support-for-single-payer-health-coverage-grows-driven-by-democrats/

@Fernie: Which is why I oppose unbridled capitalism, Smartass!!!

@Burnley123: Millennials may be [i]moving[/i] [i]closer[/i] to single payer healthcare, and I'm on board with it, but we're not there yet. Bernie helped Trump get elected. Yes, I digressed. 😑

Socialism can be at it's worst (China) to some of it's best (New Zealand, Denmark, Canada, etc.). I suppose it’s all in the morals of the governing bodies and the willing participation of their citizens. I actually support a mix of capitalism, but not completely unregulated, and allowing for unionization and including a socialistic safety net to cover services best publicly-funded, and to take care of those who can't find jobs, or whose jobs don't pay a living wage.