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katielass · F
He was smart to get out of it. It was a stupid deal, so not surprising the bozo signed on to it. It doesn't hold the world's biggest polluters, china and India, accountable for like 15 years. Plus, it takes our money and gives it to others, which is really what this climate garbage is about. Redistribution of wealth, with a helluva lot going into the pockets of some very well connected crooks. Of course those who are pissed because they cant fool the US will bitch and moan about it but who cares.
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@questionWeaver: I have to look into that...technically.
@WhisperingBanshee: lol ... it is all good
Congress has to ratify foreign treaties ... whichnis why President Obama was able to sign it, without worrying about it ... hollow signature!
Congress has to ratify foreign treaties ... whichnis why President Obama was able to sign it, without worrying about it ... hollow signature!
katielass · F
@WhisperingBanshee: Yeah, we can pull out and we are. You need to do your homework before you open your mouth. The constitution requires a valid and enforceable treaty to be ratified by 2/3 of congress. obama didn't consult congress. He used his pen and created an EO. Trump can use his pen and reverse it, like he's reversing a lot of obama's illegal "laws". You lose. Again.
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@katielass: An EO without approval from Congress is not only legal and Constitutionally supported, it's a privilege of the office. The Climate accord was never submitted because our congress is, by and large, a group of juvenile, self-centered old men hell bent of protecting their own interest and "winning the game."
"Illegal laws" is an oxymoron. I'm sure you're familiar with the term.
"Illegal laws" is an oxymoron. I'm sure you're familiar with the term.
@WhisperingBanshee: ?
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@questionWeaver:
Yes, accord never originally sent to Congress.
Yes, it may allow Trump to withdraw.
Still, it will take from a year to more likely 3 1/2 years.
The implication that Obama's EO's are illegal laws (still an oxymoron) but Trump's are sent for Heaven is childish and ignorant.
This "our side wins, get over it" bullshit has to end.
Yes, accord never originally sent to Congress.
Yes, it may allow Trump to withdraw.
Still, it will take from a year to more likely 3 1/2 years.
The implication that Obama's EO's are illegal laws (still an oxymoron) but Trump's are sent for Heaven is childish and ignorant.
This "our side wins, get over it" bullshit has to end.
Bottom line ... from this point forward, there is no financial commitment .. nor regulation to adhere to, related to the Paris Accord.
It all returns to voluntary
Regardless of sides ... it is All good!
It all returns to voluntary
Regardless of sides ... it is All good!
Trump supporters are the only ones that count ... nobody else will give him the courtesy of consideration ... seems, they seem to have it all figured out.
katielass · F
katielass · F
@questionWeaver: Well, yours was true, no question. I keep hoping at least some of these people will react with a genuine interest in finding out the truth instead of reacting with anger because it is questioned. That right there says a lot. Imagine if they actually read what the majority of scientists say on the subject. Scientists who have actual scientific accomplishments, not like the losers pushing this scam.
@katielass:
So with you ... it would be amazing if they would just follow the math ... and when it does not add up ... just question it all ... a little.
Anyway .. glad that Paris gig is behind us!
So with you ... it would be amazing if they would just follow the math ... and when it does not add up ... just question it all ... a little.
Anyway .. glad that Paris gig is behind us!