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Wouldn't it be a good time for the imams & mullahs of the world to clarify what happened to the soul of the Manchester bomber?

It seems well past time to press for an answer to this troubling question. If Islam really is a force for peace, then Muslim leaders could prove it by uniting to warn potential jihadists that God is not pleased with the murder of innocents, and that Mr. Abedi is now residing in hell. [c=#BF0000]http://bit.ly/2qo0fWI[/c]
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You mean like this?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2017/mar/26/muslims-condemn-terrorism-stats
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@Laifu1: That is just the usual thing that Islam is a religion of peace and abhors terrorism. I want to know what they think Allah does with monsters like Mr. Abedi. Islam is not shy about talking about Hell and damnation --it is on almost every page of the Koran. So where do they think Mr. Abedi, and others like him now reside -- they never want to say.
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@IstillmissEP: Maybe because you have no clue what jihad actually means. http://www.justislam.co.uk/product.php?products_id=2
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@Laifu1: I want to know if they think Mr. Abedhi is in Hell. What I know about "true jihad" really doesn't matter.
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@beckychandler: They believe that only Allah can decide that. You know, the same thing Christians believe? If they say that Allah forbids it and it is wrong, then I'm pretty sure they don't believe the person is in heaven. What you are asking is for them to announce that they know more than god, something decent Christians would also have a problem with.
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@IstillmissEP: I hope you are an athiest, because if not, you are just an idiot who has never read such texts as, idk, the Bible...
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@IstillmissEP: [quote] Of course they condemn Terrorism. Thats a word we use. Not them. The call it Jihad. When an Imam condemns Jihad..get back to us.[/quote]

Everyone knows what terrorism means, muppet.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@IstillmissEP: Read the Bible and bomb an abortion clinic. It works just like that and I know because I met a Christian once and read something on a dodgy website.
@Laifu1: You are right to a certain extent. A Christian (at least a Catholic) can not authoritatively say who is in Hell. But the Catholic Church purports to be able to say that certain individuals are conclusively in Heaven i.e. saints. A Christian (at least a Catholic) can say with a great deal of certainty that Hitler and Mr. Ahmedi are not in Heaven and at best are doing some pretty heavy lifting in Purgatory. But, rather than an apologist like yourself --why don't we hear about this from the Islamic religious leaders. If they made it clear these guys are not being rewarded with time in eternal paradise, it might dissuade future individuals like Mr. Ahmedi -- and convince people like me that Islam is a religion of peace.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@IstillmissEP: He bombed exactly the same number of people as The Prophet Mohammed. So your point is...
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beckychandler: [quote] But, rather than an apologist like yourself --why don't we hear about this from the Islamic religious leaders.[/quote]

I dunno. Maybe you can't use Google.

[quote]apologist like yourself[/quote]

Saying that all Muslims are terrorists is not apologising for terrorism.

If I say that not all French people smell, I am not apologising for people smelling. Read my post. I live in a Muslim part of London and I actually know the culture. Where is your information from?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@IstillmissEP: How many people did the Old Testament God murder?
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@IstillmissEP: Jesus wasn't in the Old Testament.

FFS 😂
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@beckychandler: I take it you didn't read the link. I can find hundreds of cases of Islamic leaders saying this is a horrible sin and not to do it. I also find it funny that you see me as an apologist for Islam. I am an athiest. I actually consider organized religion to be extremely harmful. I just have issues with people who are willfully uninformed. I live in an area of the US with a high percentage of Muslims. In 20 years, I have never seen a terrorist or had any sort of issue. I get along very well with the women, and have had several close friends who were Muslim. We even have several Islamic schools here which, oddly enough, don't put out little terrorists.
firefall · 61-69, M
@Burnley123: [quote]How many people did the Old Testament God murder[quote]Trick question. When God does it, it's not murder :p
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@firefall: @#notallgods 😜
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@IstillmissEP: [quote] Please reread my post.[/quote]

I have and its still ridiculous.

[quote] I am saying that to resolve conflicted scriptures we must judge the actions of G*ds Messenger to determine what version is correct.[/quote]

But 'God's messenger' is a subject, not an interpreter of religious text in both Christianity and Islam. You have dug yourself into a hole and you are making the argument up as you go along.
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@IstillmissEP: Since you don't even know that Siddhartha was not a god, and that there are living Buddhas, why would I keep arguing with you. I have NEVER been in an argument with you where you knew what you were talking about. You are simply a classic example of the Dunning Kruger effect.