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Border Wall construction bid finalists
http://dennismichaellynch.com/feds-select-finalists-border-wall-construction/
http://dennismichaellynch.com/feds-select-finalists-border-wall-construction/
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Northwest · M
Cool. Are we expecting an armored attack from the Mexican side? Do these guys know what the Maginot line is?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@Northwest:
Interesting point. I haven't seen the terms of the bid request. Could they have copied and pasted the Maginot Line specs?
Interesting point. I haven't seen the terms of the bid request. Could they have copied and pasted the Maginot Line specs?
Northwest · M
@Jackjjacksonjr: I have not seen the RFP either. I did catch an interview (along with an animation) with one of the bidders. It's an Arizona company, the guy's grandfather was an illegal immigrant.
Essentially, the article you referenced, talks about doing something that makes the wall unnecessary. As in, the electronics measures, are sufficient. So, unless we fear an armored attack from Mexico, electronic security is not only sufficient, but is more efficient than an actual wall.
Essentially, the article you referenced, talks about doing something that makes the wall unnecessary. As in, the electronics measures, are sufficient. So, unless we fear an armored attack from Mexico, electronic security is not only sufficient, but is more efficient than an actual wall.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@Northwest:
Could it be that all along the Wall is figuratively a concept? That may actually make sense.
Could it be that all along the Wall is figuratively a concept? That may actually make sense.
Northwest · M
@Jackjjacksonjr: A virtual wall is what the original design called for. That was pre-Trump. It's what the design will be when all the haggling is done. Trump may insist on a physical wall, so he can deliver on a campaign promise, but that will be a waste of taxpayers money, and will not prevent undetected border crossings.
You can make a lemonade out of this lemon, by throwing in some communications grade fiber optic, when they dig additional trenches, and use it to provide inexpensive or free broadband connectivity, to all the border communities, on both sides of the border.
You can make a lemonade out of this lemon, by throwing in some communications grade fiber optic, when they dig additional trenches, and use it to provide inexpensive or free broadband connectivity, to all the border communities, on both sides of the border.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@Northwest:
My guess is that you are essentially correct. It was will jumbled up enough that an actual wall will be built someplace ("essential" of course but not costing a lot) and by the time it's all said and done the result will be that the promise was both literal (hence the symbolic actual Wall referred to above) and mainly figurative because the end result will be "vastly superior" or some similar description.
My guess is that you are essentially correct. It was will jumbled up enough that an actual wall will be built someplace ("essential" of course but not costing a lot) and by the time it's all said and done the result will be that the promise was both literal (hence the symbolic actual Wall referred to above) and mainly figurative because the end result will be "vastly superior" or some similar description.
Northwest · M
@Jackjjacksonjr: You have multiple classes of illegals:
1. economic immigrants, with no political agenda. These are the people who mow our lawns, wash our dishes, clean our streets, spread manure in fields, etc.
2. Non-violent drug smugglers.
3. Violent drug smugglers
4. Terrorists
While some sections of the border, have no wall, some already do, and the Rio Grande is a river, so you can't put a wall in the middle of a river.
All categories of illegals, are going to scale the wall. You can make it harder to climb, but they will come up with ways to defeat it, and the bulk of cost to defeat the wall, will fall on the most vulnerable, category 1.
So, it's not really about preventing them from climbing the wall, or tunneling under it, it's about detecting it, and dispatching law enforcement. Both are about electronic measures, not brick and mortar.
We would be wasting our money, if we focus on brick and mortar. Our efforts should go toward electronic measures ONLY. This will not only push our technology into new areas, but it will also provide higher paying jobs in the tech industry.
What that will not do, however, is give Trump his "wall". There's no budget for it now, anyway, and next year, everyone will have forgotten about it. Trump will still be able to say that he built the wall. He would be lying, as it would not be a deviation from the roadmap established under the Bush/Obama administrations, but then again, no one is taking Trump to task for his constant lies. "Give him a chance", is what I mostly hear. Why? He's the President of the United States, and supposedly has all the answers, as opposed to "who knew it was going to be so complicated".
The deal is not about screwing someone over a real estate deal, it's the Presidency.
1. economic immigrants, with no political agenda. These are the people who mow our lawns, wash our dishes, clean our streets, spread manure in fields, etc.
2. Non-violent drug smugglers.
3. Violent drug smugglers
4. Terrorists
While some sections of the border, have no wall, some already do, and the Rio Grande is a river, so you can't put a wall in the middle of a river.
All categories of illegals, are going to scale the wall. You can make it harder to climb, but they will come up with ways to defeat it, and the bulk of cost to defeat the wall, will fall on the most vulnerable, category 1.
So, it's not really about preventing them from climbing the wall, or tunneling under it, it's about detecting it, and dispatching law enforcement. Both are about electronic measures, not brick and mortar.
We would be wasting our money, if we focus on brick and mortar. Our efforts should go toward electronic measures ONLY. This will not only push our technology into new areas, but it will also provide higher paying jobs in the tech industry.
What that will not do, however, is give Trump his "wall". There's no budget for it now, anyway, and next year, everyone will have forgotten about it. Trump will still be able to say that he built the wall. He would be lying, as it would not be a deviation from the roadmap established under the Bush/Obama administrations, but then again, no one is taking Trump to task for his constant lies. "Give him a chance", is what I mostly hear. Why? He's the President of the United States, and supposedly has all the answers, as opposed to "who knew it was going to be so complicated".
The deal is not about screwing someone over a real estate deal, it's the Presidency.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@Northwest:
He will be able to splain it away as Ricky Ricardo would say .....
He will be able to splain it away as Ricky Ricardo would say .....