Teresa May is rejecting the call for a Scottish independence referendum till after Brexit.

Didn't notice that mistake. One of my lecturers is called Teresa so I've probably done that out of habit. I'm sorry but what is your question?

@thatscottishguy: You complain that Westminster doesn't listen to you, meaning, presumably, Scots or Scotland. My question is, who do you listen to?

@MartinII: Citizens can listen to who they like but politians should listen to the people. The Tories do not feel they need to though because Scots will never vote for them.

I am againts Scots indie but the situation calls for compromise as the only way to keep Scotland in. Having the referendum during a post brexit recession is also a terrible strategy.

There's a porn. model called Teresa May. ;)

@Lynda70: lol

@Burnley123: In the case of Scotland, the only reliable indication of what the people think is the result of the independence referendum. Just because Nicola Sturgeon, or anyone else, asks for something, it doesn't mean she should be given it.

As it happens, I'm in favour of Scottish independence, and I think everyone in the UK should have a say in the matter.

@Lynda70: Very interesting!

@MartinII: The result of the referendum was based on the situation as it was then, including the fact that the UK was in the EU. That's all changed. The English want independence from the EU so maybe now the Scots want independence from the UK. Why should Scotland be ruled by London?

@MartinII: The SNP were elected to the Scottish parliament on a manifesto that said if there is a major shift in circumstance such as being pulled outhe of the EU, they would pursue another referendum. She has a mandate, so should be listened to.

@thatscottishguy: Of course she should be listened to. So should everyone else. That doesn't mean that people should do as she asks.

By the way, you still haven't answered my question!

Of who I listen to? I fail to see the point of your question. Also May should do as she asks since she has the mandate.

@thatscottishguy: The point I'm trying to make is this. You keep complaining about people not listening to you (by which I think you really mean not doing as you wish). OK, people should listen, I agree, though having listened they should make up their own minds what to do. But the same applies to you. So who have you listened to recently- apart from the SNP, obviously?

As to the possibility of a second referendum, the question of independence for Scotland, or any other part of the UK, is a matter of importance to everone in the UK. So the UK Prime Minister should do what she thinks right for the whole country, not what the First Minister of a devolved administration asks her to do. Personally, as I have said, I am in favour of Sottish independence and look forward to an opportunity to vote accordingly.

I'm not complaining about people not listening to me 😂. I don't like the PM ignoring our FM when she has a mandate. Yes I listen to the SNP, also SLab, the Tories, the Greens and all sides of the argument. You make it sound like I'm crying over a personal instance of someone not listening to me.

@thatscottishguy: The PM (your PM!) is not "ignoring" the FM. She is, or may be, deciding to do something other than what the FM wants, or says she wants. There is a huge difference.

Now you're just arguing over technicalities😂. By rejecting another referendum she is ignoring the mandate.

The most pointless type of argument.

I'd rather argue with the ignorant RWNJs as at least there is usually a point.

@thatscottishguy: It's not a technicality at all. It's a fundamental point. Sturgeon has a mandate to propose a referendum, that's all. Because it's a matter that affects the UK as a whole, the decision is for May, or rather for the Westminster Parliament.

Yes it's her decision but it still ignores that the SNP were given the mandate and so disregards the choice the people of Scotland made in the election. They can choose to not let us have one, doesn't mean it's right. This really is pointless.

It doesn't ignore or disregard anything. It simply takes a different view. You really ought to be more careful with language. As to whether it's right, of course that's a matter of opinion. Personally, as I keep saying, I agree with you - the sooner Scotland is independent the better in my opinion.

Anyway, I'm off to bed. Good night.

That's why this is a stupid argument. I argue politics not English.

@thatscottishguy: I'm sorry to bang on, but you make a false distinction. If you make false or unsubstantiated claims, albeit unintentionally, through inaccurate use of language, you undermine your own arguments. Not just you personally I mean, anyone.

Cheers.

You must be a lot of fun.