What do you think about the female Democratic party representatives who refused to acknowledge the sacrifice of a fallen hero?

Unreal

Thank you. He should be ashamed for basically pimping the death of serviceman for self-aggrandisement.

Isn't how the widow views things the real truth?

@Jackjjacksonjr: If she feels slighted then they should personally acknowledge and explain to her. If that is the case then I feel twice as sorry for her. My ex is a soldier and I would feel horrified to be a spectacle for the man who signed my husbands death warrant.

Very revealing. Thanks for your input. It is kind of a blow to the soul to think that something like this level of disrespect from elected officials could be tolerated.

I am not looking to belittle anyone. Just kind of amazed that folks would be fine with it.

Is it pimping the death of a service member when they are given a medal posthumously? To recognize something that was public knowledge just a few weeks ago?

Would it have been ok for Republicans to sit and scowl at Obama because the helicopter containing so many SEALS was shot down?

It's scary to think that the left cannot even agree its right to honor the fallen. Seriously, I feel like part of my heart has been broken. I truly don't know how people can automatically justify this level of indecency and indignation.

The mind is an amazing thing. It can justify just about anything.

@USMCGUY: Thats because you're standing on their side of the fence. Republicans have done far worse in opposition of Obama.

Did you feel as slighted when Trump made fun of McCain's experience as a POW?

As I stated, my ex and the father of my children is a soldier. He is more upset at Trump causing an unnecessary death. He understands what went on and that it was not meant as disrespect towards the wife or the sacrifice, but rather the carelessness of Trumps actions.

@USMCGUY: Rep. Joe Wilson of South Carolina was disrespectful to President Obama himself, directly by calling him a liar during his address. So it makes no sense for you to scold if you're not even going to remember the facts.


On this, we can agree.

@USMCGUY: I mean, Republicans basically did exactly that. Obama caught no end of flak for his military endeavors. I'm not privy to either party, personally, and as an outsider it seems pretty significantly different a situation from what you described. I don't recall Obama ever celebrating anything about that mistake, in fact I seem to recall a constant attempt to downplay the losses during the mission. But that mission had much more tangible results, the killing of a major terror group leader. This mission was intended to be the same but because of Trump's hastiness and lack of intel they completely missed the mark and thus left them with nothing to call a real victory beyond abstract intel on inane subject matter that may or may not have an impact elsewhere. It's a highly regrettable loss of human life. I don't think many commanders out there would feel very good about themselves sacrificing human lives for some pieces of paper. And this is without even getting into the collateral damage aspect of it, which is a constant problem in all warfare.

@VioletRayne: Ok, yes, I did have issue with his statements about McCain. I thought it was unacceptable. I am on record as saying such things even as recently as yesterday. Do a search of my posts and I spelled it out. That being said...

He did not CAUSE this death. The insurgents on the ground caused his death. Military operations involve RISK. It is unreasonable to think that any military mission outside the wire will always result in bad guys getting killed and good guys come home without scratches.

That is what war is.

I believe that Trump has done everything a CIC could do to prevent this from happening, he continues to be a huge supporter of the military, and is looking for ways to protect them with budget increases to get better equipment, training, etc.

None of that is relevant because the applause wasn't for TRUMP it was for the widow.

If folks can't see that then they are blinded by their political view.

For the record, I am not on that side of the fence. I straddle the fence on many issues. I am however willing to listen to reason and I love our country.

Thanks for the post.

@bijouxbroussard: Apples and horse shoes.

I thought it was a breach of protocol to interrupt the president and said so at the time. Again, this is not the same thing as a lack of respect for the fallen.

They women didn't disrespect Trump when they did that, they insulted his wife, the military, and the country. They also made a terrible example for their party.

The issue didn't have anything to do with policy. It was a recognition of sacrifice. If you can't see that, there is nothing I can write that could change it.

@USMCGUY:

That's how you feel. I have never once said that his widow doesn't deserve respect. Infact, I said they should go to her and acknowledge his sacrifice as well as explain their actions.

I completely understand the reasoning. I don't agree with your summation. I believe Trump's hasty calls and bad judgment is responsible for that Seals death just as much as the fiend who physically ended his life.

I fully understand the sacrifice of the wife as I was pregnant with our second child while my ex was in Afghanistan. I've been there through his two tours in Iraq as well, sir, and though I fully appreciate and honor your service, I don't agree with your condescending tone. No, I haven't been to war but I've had to worry myself sick waiting for moments of contact to verify that the love of my life and father of my children was ok. I have also been the one to answer the door to receive the news that my loved one wasn't going to return home. Not my my ex as he returned home with PTSD; and yes, I was the one to take the knife out of his hand when he was trying to kill him self infront of our son. I know that sacrifice well on both fronts.

Was it right for Trump to acknowledge his sacrifice? Yes. It's the way he did it that I abject to. As if he doesn't care for the life that was lost or the one who mourns him, but rather was eager to say "his mission was a success." He wanted nothing more than the appearance of success. Any loss of life is a failure. Especially when it's unnecessary.

@VioletRayne: Thanks for your support. May the Lord bless and keep your family and your husband.

Apologies if you picked up some condescension in my response. None was intended. Thats the problem with text. You can't always get the tone. I think that is important.

I respect that is the way you feel. I disagree and believe the recognition was deserved. They didn't insult Trump with their neglect and refusal to acknowledge his sacrifice. They insulted themselves. Just my opinion.

Thanks for your post.

@USMCGUY:
well, agree to disagree. I have a hard getting upset because some people refused to stand after all the crap Trump has done and said---and he's been given a pass.


So...same basic set of circumstance in Benghazi. And y'all pilloried Hillary. That's what I mean when I say HYPOCRISY.

@USMCGUY: well said

@bijouxbroussard: Do you understand what happened at Benghazi?

The mission the seal died on was an intel gathering mission. The mission took casualties as they sometimes do. That is very different then refusing to support an ambassador and denying repeated requests for extra security.

When the attack occurred there was nothing in terms of support and when the story comes out, they blamed it on a video tape.

This has nothing at all to do an ambassador, lack of security, lack of response, or cover up which is what Benghazi was all about. Then trying to change the story after the fact.

It is nothing at all like a failed military mission. There is no attempt to cover things up. There is no issue with lack of support. This really is scratching here.

Have you read the accounts of what happened? Did you listen to the testimony? Have you seen the interviews with the survivors? Did you watch 13 hours which was based on this incident... gross mismanagement from the State Department and the CIC. Sorry, that didn't move the needle one bit.

No valid argument here. In my humble opinion I reject the basis of your argument because there are no similarities.

@USMCGUY:

Your eloquence and research is wasted on bb. You will be called a racist and blocked and realize how much time you've wasted.

@Jackjjacksonjr: I appreciate that and it may ultimately be what happens. I personally hope that it does not occur. If we as a country can't find even the means to sit down and discuss things then civil war is sure to follow.

If that happens, at least there are bread crumbs of the thread to show other people that not EVERYONE on the right or center is an ass.

I have and will continue to pride myself on being civil. As long as folks remain the same... all is well.

@USMCGUY:

Your intentions are good. Perhaps you will succeed where others have failed. Good luck!

@USMCGUY: Now that last statement I totally agree with