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What do you think about the female Democratic party representatives who refused to acknowledge the sacrifice of a fallen hero?

Here is some of the story and the video for those of you who did not watch the Presidential address last night.

http://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/03/01/meet-the-democrats-who-refused-to-stand-and-applaud-the-widow-of-a-fallen-navy-seal/

Your honest feedback is appreciated.
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They had other concerns, like the loss of healthcare and civil rights that are in danger of going away. And they probably knew from Trump's previous comments to people like John McCain that it was just useless posturing and insincere, anyway.
USMCGUY · 46-50, M
@bijoux, we have spoken several times over the past weeks so you know I am interested in honest debate. So your position is that it acceptable to be disrespectful and not show any appreciation to his widow for his sacrifice?

The fact they didn't like other parts of any of his speech made their actions right?

Is that standard ok with you?
@USMCGUY: It's hypocrisy to accept all of the things Trump has said and done that have been disrespectful without comment yet still judge others for not following protocol.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@USMCGUY: Thats the way the racist bigot rolls sir.
USMCGUY · 46-50, M
@bijouxbroussard: Is it protocol we are talking about or just common decency. Despite how they felt about the speech or his policies, can't they at least recognize the sacrifice?

I may be wrong but I think this is the moment that the Democratic party died. They jumped the shark with this. Remember the independents decide the election. With this kind of reaction from the leadership, I believe they won't win the presidency for the next 20 years.

It really is sad. Im not saying it to belittle anyone. It's disheartening. I am even sad for you. I truly respect your conviction and you have a very intelligent way of presenting your arguments even if we don't see eye to eye.

The world doesn't deal in absolutes but to my way of thinking there can really be no excuse.

Thanks again for posting.
@USMCGUY:
Im not saying it to belittle anyone

Yeah, but you kind of are. You're belittling anyone who doesn't agree with you and doesn't express the proper amount of outrage. If that's the night "the Democratic Party died", the Republican party lost any claim to being "The Party of Lincoln" when they elected a racist like Trump as president. And he used that widow for his own ends, which I consider even more despicable.
USMCGUY · 46-50, M
@bijouxbroussard: I clarified that I am disappointed. Its not pointed at anyone. You can agree or disagree with me. I think i have been pretty open about that and consistent.

My comment about the party dying has to do with the fact in my humble opinion that this lack of respect will cost the party at the ballot box. Maybe the public will remember, maybe they won't. For me it is almost all telling about the leadership.

That is your right to have the opinion that Trump is a racist. I don't subscribe to that. To me folks throw that around to silence people. I actually know people who work for him. They are non anglo and they LOVE working for him. Go figure. I think his meeting with black leaders and working on things for the inner cities is yet more proof that is not the case.

Even Van Jones said, last night Trump became president Trump.

You can feel he used that widow. Again, your right. I disagree and instead of going back and showing where it is actually commonplace for the president to tip the hat to guests in the crowd and tell their story, you can look at the worst in him whether its real or not.

You are always welcome in my discussions.
@USMCGUY:
I think his meeting with black leaders and working on things for the inner cities is yet more proof that is not the case.

Was that the time he asked reporter April Ryan if she could arrange a meeting with the CBC ? Because Ryan's also black ? Uh huh. I've met a few people who worked with Trump, too, over the years.
USMCGUY · 46-50, M
@bijouxbroussard: Did she know anyone at the CBC? Did she get him a meeting?

I don't know the answer to those questions. Maybe she has connections? Go figure, someone is black has connections to the congressional black caucus? Who'd have thought it?

Seriously, I don't know that asking a black person to arrange a meeting with a group that represents a minority is a bad thing. Usually groups WANT to get FaceTime to pursue their agenda.

I guess I am failing to see the issue with this one. Can you please help me out.

I am missing that one big time.

(Again, not trying to be smart... I really don't see where you are going with that one)
@USMCGUY:

She was a reporter, not his secretary. He is the president. You really, really don't understand why that was inappropriate ???

Seriously, I don't know that asking a black person to arrange a meeting with a group that represents a minority is a bad thing. Usually groups WANT to get FaceTime to pursue their agenda.

Ah, Gotcha. Like Trump you see a black person and assume an "agenda", because we all think the same way, and of course we all know each other.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@USMCGUY: Won't be long until bb calls you a racist and blocks you. It's her calling card.
USMCGUY · 46-50, M
@bijouxbroussard: Did she know members of the CBC? Did she schedule a meeting?

Have you ever known someone and used your network to get an audience with someone? It happens all the time in business. Its not racist, its called networking.

I would like to personally thank you for putting words in my mouth. You know exactly what I see when I see a black person. I am not going to give you my resume but for you to even hint that I am racist is laughable.

So as the president, the only person who should ever call someone to try to meet with them is the presidents secretary? He can leverage his relationship with someone or use this as an opportunity to build a relationship with someone. That is clearly RACIST. I don't know how people stand for that! (Sarcasm intended)

You see if you told me he spoke to a black reporter and said... "Hey, You... why don't you stop what your doing right now and go getting a meeting with your people... you know all the dark skinned people over there... tell them I want their butts in my office now" I would say that is racist.

Thats not what you said. Again, I don't know but if she had contacts, why shouldn't he leverage them?

After all what was he trying to do with the meeting? Was he trying to line them up for a lynching? I don't think so... maybe, just maybe he was trying to find common ground. Find something they could agree on... hardly a racist act.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@USMCGUY: You see what's coming next right? Ask her if she respects Van Jones.
Did she know members of the CBC? Did she schedule a meeting?

Again, that's not her job. It's networking if another reporter asks her, not the freaking POTUS. These are members of his government and he's supposed to have already been reaching out to them.
USMCGUY · 46-50, M
@bijouxbroussard: So what you are saying is reporters, whose job it is to know people and interview them and most likely have connections should never be called on to help the POTUS out? The only way they can interact is through official channels.

Yeah, you didn't answer the question AND it doesn't seem the least bit racist to me. I am sorry but that is going no where.

Seriously, I think if you and I sat down over an IPA we would talk some good shit. I do like that you are reasonably well informed and have an opinion. I can tell you think about things a lot and do your research. What do you do for a living?
@USMCGUY:
I would like to personally thank you for putting words in my mouth. You know exactly what I see when I see a black person. I am not going to give you my resume but for you to even hint that I am racist is laughable.

I apologize for that. I don't know you or how you feel about these things, but I've had similar conversations. By itself it doesn't necessarily mean anything. But with Trump it's typical and part of an outgoing pattern with him. You don't see it, his supporters don't. (Incidentally, the CBC sent Trump a letter directly and say he never replied to them)

But he saw the reporter as his "African American" to use to help with his program, as he uses people---like he used that widow.

I neither like nor respect him, and it's not because he's a Republican. I didn't support George W and I thought he was often inept, but I never thought he was a racist. I'm convinced Trump is, and it goes back to the days when he was getting sued for redlining prospective tenants as a property owner, and continues because of his appointments, like Steve Bannon and Jeff Sessions.

I'm a retiree, college educated, widow.