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Were Trump and his cohorts in collusion with the Russians to help swing the election his way ?

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Cierzo · M
No. Reality is hard. Next American election not until 2020. Le Pen and Wilders with chances of getting power in Europe. The sooner you accept it the better.
You're not paying attention.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
Le Pen and Wilders won't be getting elected , that's just your wet dream. And Trump won't be around come 2020 , that's an increasing probability.
Cierzo · M
@pezzza: We will see. They said the same about Trump a year ago
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Cierzo: They have proper democracies in France and The Netherlands. A few thousand rednecks can't subvert the will of the vast majority like happened here.
Cierzo · M
@pezzza: A few thousand rednecks...elitism is alive and well, and giving reasons every day to vote for populism.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@pezzza:

Vast majority? The Constitution says otherwise

A few thousand rednecks? MI, WI and PA would add up to over 100K of the so called rednecks?
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Jackjjacksonjr: 100,000 v 3,000,000 = vast majority.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@pezzza: that's not what the election rules entailed. One side had a better plan to win the electoral college. Had the rules been different the result likely would have been different. One can't say after the fact that had the rules been different I might have won.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@pezzza: The Constitutional rules aka electoral college wasn't even close. Even you dint believe your line of um reasoning.
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Jackjjacksonjr: Try following the thread. We were talking about 'real' democracies , where a majority elects a government.

P.S. You never did answer the actual question.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@pezzza: The initial topic your conspiracy theory which doesn't merit a response. Then you segwayed into the proposed pezzzzzza election system 😂
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Jackjjacksonjr: You mean you don't have an answer for me.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@pezzza: obviously the answer is no to that ridiculous question. There is a written documentation that CNN and the DNC broke the rules in their unsuccessful attempt to foist Mrs Clinton on the American people. What are your stances on those issues? (This should be good lol) 👀
RodionRomanovitch · 56-60, M
@Jackjjacksonjr: So this whole shitstorm engulfing him right now is just more fake news ?
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
@pezzza: The president is obviously under heavy media attack and in the case of General Flynn there appears to have been a problem. Despite that the Pressient's agenda is movely forward quickly. Almost all cabinet nominees have been confirmed. The SC nominee will be confirmed.