Why didn't the dishonest media tell us about the Bowling Green Massacre ?
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bowman81 · M
Actually the Obama administration banned travel from Iraq for 6 months after discovering Iraqi refugees planning to ship heavy weapons to help Al Qaeda kill Americans. They were in Bowling Green Kentucky...much ado about the Bowling Green Terrorist misstatement.....they were planning a massacre...and no there was no outrage then nor when Carter rounded up and deported 7000 Iranian's who were here on student visa's and deported them along with a travel ban. Funny how that works inn't it?
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bijouxbroussard · F
@bowman81, you remember what was going on in Iran back then. The Shah (who was 'sympathetic' to the U.S.) had been overthrown, and there was also the hostage crisis. Carter’s attorney general, Benjamin Civiletti, on Nov. 13, 1979, ordered all Iranians with student visas to report to U.S. immigration officials by Dec. 14 or else face possible deportation, according to a New York Times account. Civiletti was acting on a Nov. 10 order from Carter.
Federal judge Joyce Hens Green initially ruled the order unconstitutional on Dec. 12, 1979, but her ruling was later reversed on appeal. On Sept. 22, 1980, the Times, citing an Immigration and Naturalization Service spokesman, reported that by that date, nearly 60,000 students had registered as required, about 430 had been deported and 5,000 had left voluntarily.
So the contention that Carter issued a pair of orders that effectively blocked a broad category of foreigners from entry into the United States, is broadly accurate, though the discussion on the Internet sometimes glosses over the humanitarian exclusions, which according to news accounts at the time were taken seriously -- and which contrast sharply with Trump’s opposition to accepting Syrian refugees.
Federal judge Joyce Hens Green initially ruled the order unconstitutional on Dec. 12, 1979, but her ruling was later reversed on appeal. On Sept. 22, 1980, the Times, citing an Immigration and Naturalization Service spokesman, reported that by that date, nearly 60,000 students had registered as required, about 430 had been deported and 5,000 had left voluntarily.
So the contention that Carter issued a pair of orders that effectively blocked a broad category of foreigners from entry into the United States, is broadly accurate, though the discussion on the Internet sometimes glosses over the humanitarian exclusions, which according to news accounts at the time were taken seriously -- and which contrast sharply with Trump’s opposition to accepting Syrian refugees.
peachykeen · F
"Obama administration banned travel from Iraq for 6 months after discovering Iraqi refugees ..."
This is [b]FALSE[/b].
Obama did not ban travel from Iraq for 6 months.
According to congressional testimony given in September 2011 by then–Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, all of these admitted refugees were “revetted against all of the DHS databases, all of the NCTC [National Counter Terrorism Center] databases and the Department of Defense’s biometric databases.” Going forward, Napolitano explained, new Iraqi refugees who wanted to enter the United States would be subjected to the same scrutiny.
This caused a delay NOT a ban.
This is [b]FALSE[/b].
Obama did not ban travel from Iraq for 6 months.
According to congressional testimony given in September 2011 by then–Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, all of these admitted refugees were “revetted against all of the DHS databases, all of the NCTC [National Counter Terrorism Center] databases and the Department of Defense’s biometric databases.” Going forward, Napolitano explained, new Iraqi refugees who wanted to enter the United States would be subjected to the same scrutiny.
This caused a delay NOT a ban.
peachykeen · F
May I also speak for everyone when I say ...
There will [b]ALWAYS[/b] be outrage when lies are stated as facts from individuals in power.
"My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror." Donald Trump
Government records prove there was [b]NO ban[/b] from Obama only stricter vetting.
The seven countries that were "identified" by Obama was in relationship to Visa processing. An amendment to the State Department’s Visa Waiver Program, a longstanding initiative that allows people from certain countries to enter the United States without obtaining a visa first. After the San Bernardino terrorist attacks in December [b]2015[/b], the Obama administration and Congress collaborated to change the way the program affected people from seven countries — Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen.
Trump needs to understand that if he is going to blame the previous administration THOSE allegations can and will be verified very easily.
There will [b]ALWAYS[/b] be outrage when lies are stated as facts from individuals in power.
"My policy is similar to what President Obama did in 2011 when he banned visas for refugees from Iraq for six months. The seven countries named in the Executive Order are the same countries previously identified by the Obama administration as sources of terror." Donald Trump
Government records prove there was [b]NO ban[/b] from Obama only stricter vetting.
The seven countries that were "identified" by Obama was in relationship to Visa processing. An amendment to the State Department’s Visa Waiver Program, a longstanding initiative that allows people from certain countries to enter the United States without obtaining a visa first. After the San Bernardino terrorist attacks in December [b]2015[/b], the Obama administration and Congress collaborated to change the way the program affected people from seven countries — Iraq, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, and Yemen.
Trump needs to understand that if he is going to blame the previous administration THOSE allegations can and will be verified very easily.