Would any good come from an American abortion ban which would criminalize a common medical...

Adstar · 56-60, M

Any law that would prevent the slaughter of innocent little ones in the womb would be a wonderful thing.. Those who take part in and support the murder of innocents should be opposed..

ElwoodBlues · M

Let's start by looking at what happened afer Dobbs. The 2022 Dobbs ruling left abortion up to the states, and abortion was immediately banned in 13 states. The result was a slight increase in abortions after Dobbs.

The fact is, most Americans don't consider a first trimester abortion to be in any way criminal. And so people continue to have first trimester abortions, and if they live in an anti-abortion state, they find ways around the ban.

All Dobbs did was create a nation of scofflaws. Just like prohibition in the 1930s. Dobbs didn't work. Not even a little bit. Most Americans don't consider a first trimester abortion to be in any way criminal, and they continue to act accordingly.

https://www.guttmacher.org/fact-sheet/induced-abortion-united-states

Interesting info on who is getting abortions when. 92% occur in the first trimester; they are very rare beyond the 2nd trimester.

So if the abortion bans are not reducing abortions, what effects have they had in the states with bans?? The answer here is grim.

Women in Texas experienced a 56% rise in maternal mortality when Texas' new abortion law went into effect prior to Dobbs.

That new Texas law, SB 8, allows MANY more people to sue a doctor who provides that kind of care. It created an "open season" on doctors. Almost any busybody can sue a doctor under SB 8.

And what it found was a 56% rise in maternal mortality in the state of Texas from the year 2019 to 2022. That's notable because it's compared to just an 11% rise in maternal mortality nationwide in the same time period. And the time period is important because 2019 is our last glimpse of life before the pandemic. We know that the entire country saw a maternal mortality spike during the pandemic.

But the thing that was really different here: Texas stood out in that it had SB 8. And we know SB 8 passed an entire year before Dobbs. That was the biggest difference between Texas and the other states that did not see such a major rise in maternal mortality.

[b] https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-rises-abortion-ban[/b ]

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

The main reason I say no is because abortion bans and anti abortion laws are often associated with lack of women's health care and maternal care in developing worlds who also have religious theocratic laws. The same will happen to the US because it's all linked. Those that are ignorant on the subject of abortion also don't support women's health so with the disappearance of abortion is also going to be the disappearance on women's health. Almost every country that has abortion bans also have higher infant and women all cause mortality rates. To look at the future consequences, you got to look at pro lifers overall views of women, religion, health and rights in general to know what it is like.

In the US, with anti abortion laws we already have higher maternal death rates among all developed countries. It wouldn't be like this if we had abortion plus lower child care cost, affordable health and better public services as well as free contraceptives and overall focus on health.

Also, pregnancy is super high risk. There's 300 diseases that can develop while pregnant not to mention mental illness. Pregnancy is extremely high risk and many women who get abortion one time, doesn't mean they don't have kids in the future. It's for this reason that highly ignorant people shouldn't be in charge of our abortion laws because they know little.

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

They're pulling out uteruses cuz dead foetus is more beloved than live lady in USA!!!

justbob · 61-69, M

Much good would come of that. Fewer dead babies and those who would commit such a monstrous and barbaric act facing consequences.

Northwest · M

You're a little over 4 years too late. The U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade on June 24, 2022, in the ruling Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization.

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MoveAlong · 70-79, M

No woman should be forced to use her blood and body to sustain the life of another.

ImperialAerosolKidFromEP · 51-55, M

I'm sure the slavery debate seemed even more hopeless than that, for a time

MyMonstersAreReal · F

Unless you’re pregnant and have to make that decision it’s really no one’s business.

HikingMan · 56-60, M

In a society that values privacy and autonomy, in a land where men impregnate woman and then leave and often go on for years or forever without paying child support, In a country where the legal system pays little mind and under punishes rapists, and Judges have been quoted as saying things like "We shouldn't ruin his life for one mistake..." AT a time when it costs an average of $35,000 a year to raise a single child...

None of what is being proposed makes any sense at all.

And please, people..., don't come at me with your religion, because this is the land of religious freedom and your religion matters not as a matter of law or even true morality...

It's all bunk!

Rabbit420 · M

Atari2678 · 41-45, M

I feel that does not have to be the answer to it .

Waveney · M

Being "pro-life" is simply a form of control. It is just an excuse for men (and it is ALWAYS men) to tell women what they may and may not do with their own bodies.