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Voters in Oil-Rich Alberta Reject Leaving Canada

Residents of the province were asked if they wish to remain in Canada or to hold another vote on breaking away, in a referendum that left both sides unhappy.

Looks like the vote is going 3 to 1 against leaving.

But, if it had gone the other way, where would Alberta be linked to administratively? Montana?
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Alberta may have chosen Canada decisively. But the grievances behind the vote didn’t disappear with it.

It’s all about Ottawa’s control. Alberta has massive oil and gas resources, but a lot of people there feel Ottawa and other provinces benefit from that wealth while adding rules that make it harder to develop.

Even many who voted to stay in Canada likely want Ottawa to pay more attention to the issues behind the frustration: equalization, getting oil to market, feeling represented (they are predominantly Conservative dealing with a Liberal govt), and energy policy.

Despite those grievances, the vote understands it is not a quick and easy move to separate. And they must have figured, they are not ready for it — yet.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@CookieCrumbs I agree that Ottawa should address grievences but I truly believe these people will always be angry; it's their raison d'etre
@Northwest
It must be human nature to focus or be obsessed with counting what they have, what they’re entitled to, what they give, etc.

And somehow failing to have a bigger picture of what they don’t have and the place they occupy in a bigger whole.
Northwest · M
@CookieCrumbs You'd think that the only thing that matters, is the bigger picture, when it comes to something like this.
It would be an independent country.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
What, and become an independent nation landlocked by Canada on three sides and the USA on the fourth?

Creating and maintaining all its own political and fiscal arrangements, public services, military and security, diplomatic corps, memberships of umpteen international organisations and treaties, border-crossing and over-flight agreements with the neighbours...?

All from whatever income it might receive while it still has oil to sell, and whatever it might earn after that?

Those two questions apply equally to any separatist ideology; e.g. the Scots and Welsh wanting to break up the UK, the Basques wanting independence from Spain. None of the rose-tinted spectacles see all those implications, or do but try to ignore them.


Any separatist referendum can only be fair if taken across the entire, intact nation, too; something the independence parties fear because they would likely lose by simple numbers. It's not a referendum on independence for one part of a nation, but a referendum on breaking up the nation.


(If linked administratively to anything else beyond normal international agreements, Alberta would not be independent. If linked to Montana it would be a de facto extension of the USA, and its citizens would become Americans, under American laws and systems.)
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
A decisive vote which will displease at least one hippy member of SW.
Northwest · M
@JimboSaturn I'm sure the guy blocks me. He is Canadian BTW, claims to be a flying Ace, or at a minimum, he has sessions with Jesus. Is he still bragging that he taught underage boys how to masturbate?
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Northwest Yes he is Canadian apparently/unfortunately. I blocked him, I'm sure he's blocked me. There is no reasoning with him.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Northwest He lives in Alberta and wanted to leave. Don't know about his 'lessons', but he does claim a lot of things.
Waveney · M
Damned silly idea.
@Northwest Yes. At least the UK is a sovereign nation.
Waveney · M
@Northwest Absolutely. See @LeopoldBloom's comment
Northwest · M
@Waveney That was sarcasm, kind of. @LeopoldBloom
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
They have no idea how they would run things, what currency, what form of government. It's a movement of feelings,not logic.
Northwest · M
@JimboSaturn You'd think the Premier would have thought about this before putting it on the ballot, or did she have a choice. I don't care, with the exception of Banff :-)

 
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