Facebook post about Cornell 7

One of my Facebook friends (who works for a local TV station affiliated with Sinclair Communications) made an angry post today, saying that the liberal mainstream media, Democrats, and AOC had lied to us again! He also posted an article from Mediaite saying that the media withheld texts from Jane Doe saying that the gangbang and sexual stuff was not illegal and that she really liked being with those guys. Does that mean it wasn’t rape?

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FreddieUK · 70-79, M

What could be more authoritative than a FB post?

Ynotisay · M

This is a tricky one because this is another in a long line of 'guilty until proven innocent." And just saying that is seen by some (the Left) as being complicit and approving. The idea of facts and truth are so far secondary today than feelings and an opportunity to throw pitchforks.

Now I wasn't there so that instantly makes me wait until all the facts are in before forming an opinion. And on the surface, you can't deny that she really DID text that after the fact. You can't deny that she went public after she wasn't invited to a Halloween party. Now does that mean she wasn't raped? No. But it does put something on the table that can't be ignored.

What gets me with this whole thing is the "Believe all women" mantra. I find that absolutely childish and nothing more than a virtue signal. That it's coming from those who claim to see "equality" is just so far from my way of thinking.

PEOPLE do bad things. PEOPLE lie for their own benefit. There are countless examples of shakedowns and false accusations by women. My friend the Family Court attorney says the strategy now in child custody cases is a woman will say, "I was afraid he was going to touch the children inappropriately" and boom. Dad loses visitation and it's up to him to prove that it's not true. That requires third party endorsements of his innocence.That's real.

So no. You don't believe all women just like you don't believe all men. You wait for the TRUTH to emerge and go from there. But that is just not on the table in today's "look at me" social media world. Facts are irrelevant. Feelings win.

SumKindaMunster · 56-60, M

According to the police report she filed when it first happened, she indicated it was consensual.

District Attorney Matthew Van Houten said the decision not to bring charges was based on the initial statement taken by the Cornell University Police Department, a six-page sworn statement from the victim.

“We take that with the foundation and the presumption that everything that she said is true, and we determine whether, if those allegations are true, they constitute the elements of any crime under the New York State Penal Law,” he explained. “We are constrained to prosecute cases based on evidence and not based on emotion or social media.”

The statement given at the time did not constitute a crime, Van Houten said.

“She did not allege that she was physically forced to engage in sexual conduct. She did not allege that she was physically helpless. In other words, that she was unconscious. She did not allege that she was given drugs without her knowledge, which would be an element of mentally incapacitated or incapacitation,” he said.

He stressed that legal constraints do not excuse what happened.

“I certainly agree that what happened in October of 2024 was morally disgusting, and any of our sons and young people, young men that we want to bring up in this world, we hope would not make the decisions that those young paternity members made in October of 2024, but we have to look at it from the legal perspective,” he said.

2 years after that, she filed her civil lawuit against Cornell University about the same event.

Dannydesigns · 26-30, MNew

Sinclair probably gave him a promotion

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@Dannydesigns Idk, I’ve heard they treat their employees like shit.

Northwest · M

The media is not hiding any of this. Whether it’s rape is not determined by Facebook, or your friend for that matter. It starts with an official complaint and and investigation.

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@Northwest The media did withhold those texts from Jane Doe, that’s what the article was about. But do you think that’s what my friend is trying to say, that it wasn’t rape? Because why else would it matter to him that those texts were withheld?

See I don’t even know what he’s trying to say, and I just don’t feel like engaging with him. It’s politics, he gets angry, and people read my comments.

Northwest · M

@Theyitis

that’s what the article was about.

What article? You mean Facebook posts? That's not an article. As to what your "friend" meant, you should ask.

Until an accusation is made, there is nothing to look at.

The media did report all this. CNN, NBC, CBS, New York Times, Wall Street Journal. They reported the texts where she claims she enjoys group sex and how she thinks the people she willingly had sex with, did not do anything wrong, but some of the texts also point to her not being aware of how may people had se with her.

Anyone has the right to withhold consent, even if the initial encounter was consensual.

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@Northwest No, the article from Mediaite that I mentioned in the original post.

Rabscuttle · 41-45

First time dealing with this nonsense, eh? You'll find that the cultural zeitgeist has very different ideas when it comes to personal accountability, and by extension, standards of "consent", based on whether a person has or lacks the privileged gender.

Alyosha · 36-40, M

It doesn't particularly look good for her case when the facts are laid out, but court of public opinion already has the verdict in, depending on your political affiliation.

NaturalBeautyQueen · 41-45, F

Working at a local tv station is NOT a tell all.

Theyitis · 36-40, M

@NaturalBeautyQueen I mentioned that because the local TV station is affiliated with Sinclair Communications, a media group known to have a strong pro-Trump, pro-Republican bias. I wanted the poster’s biases to be known.

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