China test fire missile in Pacific and New Zealand objects.

Does New Zealand own Oceania? The US claims the Western Hemisphere that consists of the half of Earth west of the Prime Meridian covering North and South America, the Atlantic Ocean, the eastern Pacific Ocean, and the Caribbean Sea.

Seems to me western colonialism is still very much alive. They have not given up their collective control of the world.

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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

Well Australia and New Zealand has largely decided to be American colonies over the last 20 years.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Why is that, though? Australia doesn't seem to see itself as part of Asia. There is no way the white guy from Canberra can pass himself off as a friend of the Fijian.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@sree251 The same colonial attitudes definitely connect them.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow It's sad, isn't it? Till death do we stay apart.

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sree251 · 41-45, M

@Roundandroundwego It won't go that far. It's all about posturing. How are you doing with your neighbors across the fence? Do they give the evil eye every time you potter around in your backyard?

ArishMell · 70-79, M

No nation - including China, the USA and New Zealand - owns any of the seas beyond its territorial limits.

So the USA cannot "claim the Western Hemisphere". Nor can China claim the Pacific and Indian Oceans despite its attempts to do so by taking over small islands as its territory.

(Western Hemisphere? West of what? A "hemisphere" subtends 180º longitude, so from which meridien, in which direction?)

So your second paragraph is simply wrong, whatever Washington and Beijing might try to claim..

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ArishMell · 70-79, M

@sree251 I wish I could explain it!

I do not know, and I am not sure if Donald Trump really knows himself.

His public excuse was of trying to combat the inexorable flow of illicit drugs but if so, how was that supposed to work?

I think instead President Trump wanted the Venezuelan oil-fields under US oil-company control, but I could be wrong.

President Maduro's regime was not one I'd wish on anyone; but I question seriously the legality of the USA "arresting" him and and his family, killing a number of Cubans employed as guards in the process. Has he been charged yet, and with what? Let alone brought to trial - but would he have a proper, fair trial? If he is not allowed that, it would be an act of supreme hypocrisy.

Meanwhile the Venezuelans are still lumbered with the same government, but now as a puppet of Washington... how and for what purpose? Certainly not "regime change", which appears simply destroying a foreign nation's government then leaving that nation to clear up the mess and suffer the consequences. It's the same regime - Trump even openly despised and disparaged the main opposition leader, showing he did not want any change apart from replacing the Maduros with the Trump administration.

It's certainly not helping the Venezuelans recover from those awful earthquakes - obviously those could not be predicted but the US response has not been over-generous.

I don't know if those oil companies even want the Venezuelan petroleum anyway because (as explained to me by a science teacher) it is so viscous it is difficult and expensive to extract, and the present American refineries are not set up to process it.

sree251 · 41-45, M

@ArishMell

I wish I could explain it!

I can. The capture of Maduro was pure thuggery and violation of international law. I am certain that Maduro will be released when winds of political fortunes change in the US. Trump will be horse drawn and quartered.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@sree251 Ah, I know that.

It's Trump's motive that I don't know because he has never credibly explained his actions; so it's hard to know if his excuses are his real motives.

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