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Trump's war in Iran is going to sweep us all into the gutter.

Oil prices have started to come down for a worrisome reason. It's like the tide going out along the seashore, an ominous phenomenon heralding the approach of a tsunami that wipes out everything. The aftermath will be a global economic wasteland.

The largest oil shock in history caused prices to surge. Now they're so high that they have inducing "demand destruction." As a result of the acute energy commodity shortages stemming from the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, oil appears to have reached a point where it is now so expensive that overseas businesses and households have begun curbing investment and consumption. That means slower economic growth that is expected to bring about a depression far worse than the last one: The Great Depression in 1929.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@DogMan
I don't really care for Trump or his style.

I don't care either if Trump is just another Joe yanking everybody's chain. But he is gotten into the driver seat of the plane we are flying in and not going where I want to go. Are you going where he is going? You said you have a farm. What the hell are you growing? Or is it just a hobby farm?

I consider myself a compassionate conservative.

Conservative is good. Compassionate smells of Bill Gates and his care for the human race.

I don't really understand the current war.

I don't either; especially, our military bases there to protect US interests that seem to be all over the goddam planet. What does protecting American interests means? Are those interests within American national territory or inclusive of the whole damn world and soon extending to the moon?

I see both sides. My friend that escaped Persia in 1979

really wants Persia back. The radical Islamists are not good people according to him.

I believe that. There are folks in the US who want our country back also. It's funny that China is not playing our game and actively stoking our deep hatred for each other. It doesn't take much for the Chinese to motivate war refugees in any state of the US, if paid CIA rates, to slit our throats as well. The UK is in a deeper hole than we are.

But I don't know if Trump is doing the right thing. I have no power, time will tell.

I don't know WHAT he is doing either but I do know HOW he is doing it. He is using US military might to be a goddam bully, and that's not right. Imagine Trump and his posses breaking down the door to get Maduro and his wife, and finds Clint Eastwood with his 44 Magnum in the way. Would you still be confused about who the bad guy is?

If Trump screws up, the Dems will take the midterms, and if he screws up more they will
take power in 2028. Thats all I know for sure.

I voted for Trump in 2024. At this point, I am no longer invested in the US political system.

The world will not end with what Trump is doing.

The world will not let Trump go much further. Thanks to Trump, the US is done as world policeman.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@sree251
"I don't really understand the current war", said Dodge-boy DogMan.

"I don't either", said sree215; especially, our military bases there to protect US interests that seem to be all over the goddam planet. What does protecting American interests means? Are those interests within American national territory or inclusive of the whole damn world and soon extending to the moon?

Says swirlie to sree251 and Dodge-boy DogMan... In reference to your quoted paragraph above sree251, the US military has Bases surrounding the Persian Gulf for two reasons...

1) the US interest that is being protected over there is 'Israel' and always has been.

Israel has been the highest recipient of US financial assistance since WWII who are given a whopping 1% of US GDP annually as a free handout.

First and foremost, that is why there is a heavy US military presence in the Gulf Region ...to protect Israel from Iran ..and to protect the other oil-producing Gulf States from Iran as well ... and not to protect mainland USA from Iran.

2) the second reason the US has bases surrounding the Persian Gulf as well as military bases in every other hick-town around the world, is because the US government makes big money off their rent-a-soldier program which is a security offering of perceived "protection" that the United States government SELLS to countries which have no military of their own, yet who remain under constant threat from adversaries who DO have strong military forces.

In the civilian world, the concept of providing "protection services" is called "extortion" ...protection in exchange for big money ...and is a common mafia practice in most large cities around the world, particularly in the USA.

Yes, the US government is a 'mafia' unto itself and it uses the services of the US military and it's Enlisted Military Personnel to make money for the US government. Providing "protection services" is a very lucrative income stream for the US and has been since WWII.

What's totally fake about US military protection however, is that the US military totally failed the Persian Gulf States it was allegedly "protecting" for big money when Iran very quickly and very systematically destroyed every American base within the Persian Gulf within a matter of a week of Trump invading Iran.

The US military proved to the world that not only is the US military incapable of protecting those countries who pay big money to the US for mafia-style "protection", the US military is totally incapable of protecting ITSELF as evidenced by the fact that Iran destroyed all American bases in the Gulf faster than any US General back in Washington could figure out what to do next.

Of interest however, is that the US military is also incapable of protecting mainland USA, just for the record. This was proven to all Americans on September 11, 2001 when Osama Bin Ladin sent half a dozen of his boys over to the USA, who very legally slipped into the USA at a border crossing, then slipped by airport security screeners with metal weapons on their person, then hijacked at least 4 commercial aircraft full of fuel simultaneously and showed the United States of America WHO is actually in charge of the world after the dust settled.

If American citizens think of their US military as being the "world's policeman", that would only show us how arrogant Americans really are at their core.

It wasn't because of Trump that the USA is no longer the "world's policeman" as you seem to think it was in the first place, the US was never the world's policeman in the first place. Osama Bin Ladin proved that to President George W. Bush 25 years ago, which has nothing to do with Trump today.

I do not support the likes of Trump, but it was Trump who destroyed the credibility of the USA on the world stage in only the last 14 months; it was not Trump who destroyed America's self-perception of it being the world's policeman. That damage was done to America long before Trump ever showed his face in American politics, just for the record.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@swirlie
Says swirlie to sree251 and Dodge-boy DogMan... In reference to your quoted paragraph above sree251, the US military has Bases surrounding the Persian Gulf for two reasons...

You are taking on two guys in a dust up. I cannot believe you are a girl in a kinky outfit. And you are not even American.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@sree251
🤣... I have taken on guys since I was a teenager in high school, sree251!

In fact, I took on my English Teacher as well as the school Principal who sided with my incompetent English Teacher and I got expelled twice, the first time in my first year of high school and the second time in my senior year.

Rather than face their truth and admit that I was right, my English Teacher continued to lie and the Principal tried to shut me up by expelling me twice.

But I went after those two asswholes and I wrote about their unsavory antics in a local newspaper which had an opinion page for contributing writers in their Saturday Edition. They didn't want to hear it from me, so let them read about it is what I said.

And no, I'm not even an American and thank Christ for that, just for the record.

That is not a kinky outfit I'm wearing; it's only a leather top with leather forearm covers that are matched with kid leather, full-length tailored pants which I wear with leather high-heeled ankle boots.

If you find that image offensive, perhaps you'd prefer that I use my last picture posted, which was me wearing a home-made bikini I made from a pattern I bought at Walmart last summer?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@swirlie

If you find that image offensive, perhaps you'd prefer that I use my last picture posted, which was me wearing a home-made bikini I made from a pattern I bought at Walmart last summer?

Oh no, please don't change your avatar! I have no intention of trampling on any flower while walking through the forest. It's a sacrilege to willfully alter what is natural.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@sree251
Well, I'm just saying that I would do that JUST for you, but for nobody else.