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Iran war: Who can take the pain the longest?

Iran has been enduring a near-constant stream of American and Israeli airstrikes it can’t defend against. Despite that, it continues to launch missiles and drones across the region.

Gulf Arab states, while still not combatants in the war, face seemingly unending and occasionally fatal Iranian fire targeting oil fields, cities and critical water works. Everybody, who can, is fleeing.

Israel, while boasting of inflicting heavy damage on Iran’s missile program and other military targets, continues to be targeted by sophisticated Iranian missiles that send a buckshot-like spray of high explosives on its cities.

The state of the global economy and energy markets is teetering for now - no real pain yet.

Trump threatens Death, Fire, and Fury on Iran if Iran stops oil flowing through the Strait of Hormuz. Oil moving through the Strait of Hormuz has trickled down since February 27 when the war started. Nothing is moving through the Straits now even though it has not been closed by Iran. No insurance. "These ships should show some guts. There is nothing to be afraid of", said Trump.

It's not the ships, Mr President, it's the insurance companies. And they are waiting for the US Navy to move into the Straits of Hormuz and show the world that it is safe.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
Where is that USN aircraft-carrier group now?

Iran's Navy might not have blockaded the Strait of Hormuz, but would not need to if the land forces can attack ships with missiles.

It's not just insurers who are stopping the ships, but the ship owners too. They don't want their unarmed vessels sunk, their crews killed, the Persian Gulf and its shores covered with lost oil.

That quote shows that Mr. Trump does not understand the situation, and his implication that the ships' crews are cowards does him no favours at all.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@ArishMell Reports are that the Aircraft Carrier Lincoln was hit by a ground to shore missile or two. The ships have been moved out of range. Sadly out of range works both ways. I hear the many aircraft parked in the Persian Gulf nations have been moved to Cyprus where they are being hit by Iranian missiles. The air tankers have been moved to Europe so there is that as well. Trump says they are running out of targets but that is only because the American/Israeli spy drones have been shot down. 29 so far and counting. Then there is the Billions of dollars of radar that is now ready for recycling. This was an extremely stupid war entered into by the ISA. (Israeli States of America). There is no way they can win because they can not say what winning is going to look like.
swirlie · 31-35, F
@ArishMell
But to your first point, where is the US Navy now? Why are they not pre-positioned in the Strait of Hormuz?

Their distinct absence looks very cowardly to me.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Israel and the US (but I repeat myself) are casualty averse They lose political will to continue. Iran lost between 300,000 to 500,000 when the US through its proxy used chemical weapons against Iran. Iran still stands.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
Israel and the US (but I repeat myself) are casualty averse They lose political will to continue. Iran lost between 300,000 to 500,000 when the US through its proxy used chemical weapons against Iran. Iran still stands.

Jesus did not buckle either. And it was not that he could withstand pain.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 Not quite sure what Jesus has to do with this discussion but OK....
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
Not quite sure what Jesus has to do with this discussion but OK....

Human suffering. He was all about our suffering and he taught us how to stop it by not propagating it through turning the other cheek when struck. Iran is not lashing out in vengeance but in self-defense. Iran has turned the other cheek twice after being attacked again while engaged in negotiations.
Vin53 · M
Considering the vast majority of United States citizens don't want the war to *begin* with...
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
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