Sen. Lindsey Graham Is Right! We can't say we won this war if an Ayatollah is left in charge.

Would President Truman have declared victory over Germany if we had killed Adolf Hitler and then accepted Hermann Göring as his successor?

The only thing worse than Donald Trump starting this war with Iran would be letting the regime survive to use a nuclear weapon in the future.

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EBSVC · 41-45, T

You realize the whole nukes thing is just to ensure they aren’t an equal player on the world stage.

It isn’t about safety, it’s about dominance.

Iran could have leveled the major cities around them whenever they wanted. For like…ever

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@EBSVC

You realize the whole nukes thing is just to ensure they aren’t an equal player on the world stage.

Religious fanaticism isn't a stable "equal player" in the world of MAD.

Btw, you may want to read:
https://similarworlds.com/movies/sci-fi/5223098-The-Political-and-Legal-Impossibility-of-Prosecuting-Captain
😉

EBSVC · 41-45, T

@beckyromero The US and Israel aren’t religious fanatics? This isn’t a holy war?

beckyromero · 36-40, F

@EBSVC

The US and Israel aren’t religious fanatics?

Nope.

Israel is a parliamentary democracy. The U.S. is a constitutional republic.

MoveAlong · 70-79, M

@beckyromero

The U.S. is a constitutional republic.

For now. Bur our Republic is in serious danger.

Waveney · 41-45, M

@EBSVC

Iran could have leveled the major cities around them whenever they wanted. For like…ever

How could they have done that when they don’t have nuclear weapons?

EBSVC · 41-45, T

@beckyromero So we’re done. Like no offense but if you think all that’s required to not be a fanatical religious government is “has elections” then there’s no conversation to be had, we don’t live in the same reality.

@Waveney Nukes are largely psychological. There’s no difference between a megaton nuke and a hundred 10 kiloton conventional missiles. Iran has had 10s or 100s of thousands of missiles and drones for years that represent the same destructive power as hundreds of nukes

The only difference in the weapon systems is range and portability.

So that’s how they could have wiped out their neighbors whenever they wanted

Waveney · 41-45, M

@EBSVC keep telling yourself that

EBSVC · 41-45, T

@Waveney as opposed to what? Magic missiles?

Waveney · 41-45, M

@EBSVC Iran could never have obliterated its neighbours. Israel on the other hand…

EBSVC · 41-45, T

@Waveney Why couldn’t they? You just say it. I’m saying they have enough missiles to do it if they wanted to. Do you think they don’t have that many?

Waveney · 41-45, M

@EBSVC any country in that case could destroy another. But they don’t. Iran could have done according to you, but they didn’t.

So why are they being attacked?

EBSVC · 41-45, T

@Waveney Yea a lot of countries could blow each other up they just don’t want to. Iran included.

Because Israel wants them gone. Because Iran has been vocal for decades about opposing Israeli and US hegemony in the region. Because Iran wouldn’t bow down to them.

And we finally got a president stupid enough to fight Israel’s war for them.

Waveney · 41-45, M

@EBSVC 💯

EBSVC · 41-45, T

@Waveney I didn’t take you for a Zionist. It’s just the “oh god they can’t have nukes everyone will die” is just bullshit. I know you didn’t say that but it’s the narrative right now.

Because they could already blow everyone around them up if they wanted to.

What they can’t do without nukes is stand up to Usrael in a meaningful way and protect the region from Western control.

It’s why we don’t care about North Korea having them. They aren’t in the Middle East.