Three F15 jets down on top of four US casualties so far.

American lives lost are immeasurable in US dollars.. The F15s cost $60 millions each. 3 x 60 = $180 million. And we are just 72 hours into a war we neither understand nor want. We are told that all six pilots ejected safely. Ejections at high level subject pilots to enormous forces that their bodies have to endure. Low level ejections are something else. The parachute has no time to deploy fully. Hitting the ground strapped to a seat is not much different from bracing for impact in a race car. Trump should try it.

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Aami1 · 26-30, F

"we"? You don't speak for me.

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@Aami1 So when are you shipping out to the Persian Gulf?

Aami1 · 26-30, F

@hippyjoe1955 I'm not. But I don't know how someone else speaks for another person?

hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M

@Aami1 The collective we is common. If you are an American you can truthfully say that we Americans. You can counter that you disagree but you are still part of the group. To say that the American population (we) have been lied to by their leadership can not be denied and being honest about being lied to is healthy for the nation.

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sree251 · 41-45, M

@Aami1

Yeah, I'm not an American. The news outlet is British. And the millions of people in each of those countries have their own independent opinions, goals and more.

The news outlet is the Guardian. It covered the Edward Snowden affair followed by Julian Assange's harassment by the British and US Governments. The Guardian claims to be an independent news agency relying only on its readership subscriptions. Do you have an independent opinion? Let's hear it.

It's a reason the whole "we" talk is stupid.

Do you mean "We" the people? I am referring to that kind of people that form the masses in every country. Which mass do you identify with?