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Will this be the end of the Trump presidency?

America's owner Israel told Trump to bomb Iran. The bombing has been ineffective as to stated aims and now Iran is striking back. Americans have been killed in the conflict. The mid terms are coming up and how many Trump supporters are going to stay home because they supported Trump when he said he was the peace president.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
Trump has nothing to lose. He knows his political career is done for. It looks like he is committing suicide going all in with no cards.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 Reports are coming in that 3 US bases have been hit as well as a US ship. Israel has shut down all reporting on the hits it is now taking and yes it is taking major hits.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955 The moment we start getting reports of US military casualties, American families with loved ones in the line of fire will be hounding their politicians to put an end to the madness.

Trump is no military commander. Putting a President as Commander-in-Chief starting a war is ridiculous. In a proper scenario, war should be declared by Congress based on the recommendation of the President, and the generals at the Pentagon be given authority to prosecute the war.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 I think the table has been set for a US loss of face. I am very suspect of what is actually going on. There isn't enough effort on anybody's part.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
I think the table has been set for a US loss of face. I am very suspect of what is actually going on. There isn't enough effort on anybody's part.

Are you saying that the US is the sacrificial lamb? Jesus Christ was the Lamb of God. The term is used in political or social contexts to represent a "scapegoat" or a victim chosen to be punished. The ritual involved the sinner laying hands on the lamb, confessing sins, and the priest sprinkling blood on the altar to cleanse the sanctuary. Is Netanyahu the priest, the sinner is Israel, and the lamb is the American people. Where does Trump fits in?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 I am saying that the nation that calls itself Israel believes that all the goyen of the world are there to serve the interest of Israel and if Israel needs to ride its old nag the USA until it drops dead then Israel will do exactly that.
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 What I find funny is that the rat is better armed than the cat that thinks it has it cornered. The US and Israel (but I repeat myself) are out of bullets and Iran hasn't started. I hear Iran already took out the Navy's 5 fleet headquarters and a major radar installation in Qutar.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
What I find funny is that the rat is better armed than the cat that thinks it has it cornered. The US and Israel (but I repeat myself) are out of bullets and Iran hasn't started. I hear Iran already took out the Navy's 5 fleet headquarters and a major radar installation in Qutar.

No, the rat is not better armed. It does not have nuclear-tipped missiles, not that they can't source the warheads but their Fatwah forbids nuclear weaponry. This doesn't mean that Pakistan won't join in the fray. The longer Iran stands on her feet in the slugfest, the more support she will get from the world. I don't think Israel dares to use her nuclear arsenal. The US will limp away. It is a reluctant party in the fray throwing half hearted punches at the victim of a mugging.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 Nukes are not all that important. Iran can sink the aircraft carriers. It has already hit the US bases through out the region and is pounding the snot out of Israel. Japan survived two nuclear attacks. Should Israel use a nuke will it survive? Pakistan, China, Russia are all nuke armed as well, We don't want to go down that road but the Israeli States of America will follow orders.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
Nukes are not all that important. Iran can sink the aircraft carriers. It has already hit the US bases through out the region and is pounding the snot out of Israel.

I am waiting with bated breath for alternate media podcast updates on the "number of kills" the various parties are racking up.

Japan survived two nuclear attacks. Should Israel use a nuke will it survive? Pakistan, China, Russia are all nuke armed as well, We don't want to go down that road but the Israeli States of America will follow orders.

I don't think Russia or China will join in the fray as combatants but they are most likely participating in the management of the conflict the way a Formula 1 race car is supported by AI controlled management system manned by technical experts. Every Iranian drone, missiles, submarines, including the kitchen sink will be launched as programmed to respond to US and Israeli moves. Top priority ought to be the destruction of Tel Aviv. The psychological impact will be crippling.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 You can think what ever you want. Iran and Russia and China and Pakistan have agreements in place. Then there is that little rogue state called North Korea.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
You can think what ever you want. Iran and Russia and China and Pakistan have agreements in place. Then there is that little rogue state called North Korea.

Let's see what happens. No one sees a good outcome for the US in this fight. Trump has no horse in this race. He could turn right round and declare a truce tomorrow.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 I just heard a report that Trump is already seeking peace with Iran. I have no verification of it but it did come from a highly placed Iranian official and not one you would think would be lying about such things. Yes lets see what happens. I think this will not be good for Trump or the US or their owners Israel.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
I just heard a report that Trump is already seeking peace with Iran. I have no verification of it but it did come from a highly placed Iranian official and not one you would think would be lying about such things. Yes lets see what happens. I think this will not be good for Trump or the US or their owners Israel.

Trump has done what Israel had wanted: attack Iran. Your report sounds credible.