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TRUMPS coal award and side effects

more coal jobs all they want to do is mine coal.. they would not want to live in a penthouse . they would be unhappy
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and here is the real worry they do not want to talk about

Black lung disease

Prevalence: Approximately 1 in 5 (20.6%) miners in Central Appalachia (KY, VA, WV) with 25+ years of experience have the disease, the highest level in 25 years.
National Rate: Approximately 16% of U.S. coal miners are estimated to contract the disease, with rates rising since the late 1990s.

TRUMP LOVES THE COAL MINERS SO MUCH .
or does he love the coal mine owners more ?

give me your thoughts
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
That has a small links to my experience although only one of our family, originating in the English Midlands city of Nottingham, was personally in mining. He was a great-uncle who had worked "down the pit". I never knew him, but do not know if he had died early from "the dust" or something else... All I know is I have his Davey Lamp, in working order, though he had carefully removed its original labels that likely identified the mine!


Is the coal extraction President Trump wants to expand, mainly by deep mining or open-cast?

A huge difference, both in the numbers of miners needed and in the health and safety risks. Many fewer people are needed for open-cast quarrying, and they are much less exposed to the dust. They still face that hazard but it is easier to control, such as by enclosed cabs on the excavators, and wearing face-masks when drilling shot-holes.

Presumably underground collieries are still operating in the USA, otherwise much of the knowledge and skills will have been lost. Also, once a deep mine has closed, it is probably irrecoverable even if it still holds useful reserves; and once it has filled with water it can endanger any working ones nearby.


The father of one my former girlfriends was an ex-miner, and he suffered badly from emphysema due to years of breathing coal dust. When I saw him he was largely confined to an armchair, very weak, breathing with obvious great difficulty, as a long-case clock nearby gently ticked away his remaining years.


These days it is easier to reduce the risk by wearing appropriate PPE; as now normal in so many trades and industries; and also to monitor the health of employees. Gone are the days when even some workers thought themselves too "manly" for such things! In later years I worked in generally clean conditions, nowhere near a mine or quarry, but was still given an annual, simple medical including lung-function test because I handled some common but hazardous chemicals - I wrote the Risk Assessments for using them, too.

So if the prevalence of industrial disease is rising among your country's miners, I would ask why; although mining and quarrying are inherently very unhealthy trades anyway.


A friend who had worked in health and safety told me of trials at one colliery with helmets fitted with full-face visors ventilated by a small fan drawing air through a filter. He said at the end of the trials, the miniers did not want to give the helmets back!

As for a property-speculator's comments about men would far prefer to dig coal than make electronic equipment in clean conditions (or even work in a jobbing engineering factory - I have done both), I wonder if he'd asked any? He might have mistaken coal-miners' traditional loyalty to each other, even internationally, for them loving the work itself. They may have voted for Mr. Trump because he promised to revive their industry, but about the only attraction may be better wages than in factories.

I can't imagine many people now would want to work in a deep colliery unless there really is nothing else available. I think his policy is trying to make the nation more self-sufficient, but whatever the cost and without considering better than reviving dying industries.

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My Mam, the neice of that Nottinghamshire miner, was not impressed when in the bitter Miners' Strike in Britain in the 1980s, many miners were telling reporters their fears their sons would be unable to follow them and fathers before, into the industry. She said previously they all hoped their sons would find far better employment elsewhere!

[Her brother took the opposite view to that like-father-like-son narrowness. He banned his own son from following him into employment with the railways as he saw that industry as dying! So my cousin became a car mechanic instead... The railways? They survived, and now largely thrive.]
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@ArishMell both i believe
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@markinkansas Is there any planning for when the coal eventually runs out?
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@ArishMell the usa was doing that phase out .. wind and solar.. not now and he gutted the epa also . so as long as he is in office i dont think there will be a change.. and he is talking about a third term.. even europe is ahead of usa on this problem..
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@markinkansas My impression is that Mr. Trump is not good at understanding anything technical, nor at thinking of consequences.

Though that applies to many politicians - I don't expect them all to be specialists but some of our lot Over Here show distressingly weak science and engineering knowledge even at general lay level. They also tend to knee-jerk reactions, I suspect because they fear accusations of being slow to act if they stop and consider the problem rather than diving straight in.

Hard to know if he is serious about a third term or if it's just bluster: I thought your Constitution and laws expressly limit a president to no more than two terms, consecutive or separate. He might object to that but I think he'd find his own country would stop him.
Ohplease47 · F
@ArishMell nobody loves mercury poisoning the water and everything in it and the air and little kids brain development. At least not in my world.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Ohplease47 Of course not - whether mercury or anything else. Why mercury though?

That's not associated with coal, so which industry did you have in mind?

The main atmospheric pollutant from coal is carbon-dioxide; also (depending on the quality of the coal) sulphur dioxide; plus particles of carbon if the coal is not burnt fully. Not mercury though.