... thought they could be really funny by bringing up a picture with the words: "Staying home, save lives!" which was a slogan used during the covid pandemic.
I don't really understand, if the Libertarian party understands its own basic ideological framework here. I can at least understand their blindness to the consequences of their individual actions, while exercising their radical forms of individualism. That's just part of the territory. But now they are pretending that a person protesting in favor of his own and others individual rights, should have better stayed home then defy a system that has always been incompatible with their Libertarian individualism.
I also ask myself if they see the irony of conflating an authoritarian regime with a virus. Both can be deadly, but one is man made and can be held accountable and the other is a force of nature that has no accountability because the virus just does what it does.
I also hope that all the ICE agents learn from Pretti's advice to stay home during COVID time. Did you know, that during the beginning of the pandemic in 2020 and the end in 2024 there were 19 people added to the "ICE fallen heroes" website?
SOURCE: https://www.ice.gov/topics/eow
During 2020 and 2024, 19 ICE officers died:
4 died of Cancer, most of them related to the 9/11 attacks. 15 died of Covid related complications
... So yeah... during a pandemic, staying home does save lives. But during an authoritarian take over, staying home forfeits your rights and liberties.
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@Northwest Well, this faction sure does seem to have internalised the propaganda.
I also remember Donald Trump being booed at the libertarian congress a year ago.
Diffrences of opinion are really common for liberals, so I don't really hold arguments and inn-fighting against them. It comes with the territory. I do however think that if you call yourself "libertarian", and you cheer for the acts of authoritarians... that the "libertarian" label, becomes an aesthetic instead of an ideal.
Diffrences of opinion are really common for liberals,
It also seems true of the extreme left (I'm using it the European way, not the daft way used to describe Democrats in the USA). I think the more you move to a 'purist' position on either wing of politics, there are those who want to be purer still - hence the signs of MAGA infighting. Remember the way that the Russian Revolution was full of purges from the beginning. Some was purely a power struggle, but there were ideological drivers as well.
@FreddieUK On the far-right there are factions too... But liberalism is special. And the reason why it's special, is because the individual is way more prominent in it's ideology. Anglosaxon countries, due to their voting system, I think, are more shielded from this behavior. But comming from a country that has a proportional voting system, which doesn't reduce the entire framework of political parties to 2 (and sometimes 3) contestants, I can tell you that in my experience liberal parties are way more cut throat. Espescially the center of liberalism (classical liberalism), where the ideology turns "individualistic" to "individualism" you have more of a party of individuals. Those individuals can still sometimes fall into faction on a certain toppic but these factions deteriorate as quickly as they came to be once another question pops up on the table. When it comes to parties that have a larger sence of community, from my perspective, the iron law of olicharchie (Robert Michels) is way more enforced or just accepted. For liberal parties, this idea of a strong leadership and the collective agreeing with it for victory sake, is in direct conflict with the idea that individuals need to be individuals at all time and not fall into collectives.
Also, when I talk about liberalism, I'm also using it in the terms like it is supposed to be used. I'm not going to let that term be corrupted by right wing American propaganda as a catch all for every faction that excist from center to the far-left.
