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The collapse of the old geopolitical order.

“The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.”

-Bart De Wever, the Belgian Prime Minister, quoting Antonio Gramsci.

Trump's America may or may not take Greenland. They may or may not use force, but either way, this current crisis marks a landmark change in world politics. And - as Mark Carney correctly analyses - it's not a transition but a rupture. One by one, Western leaders are arriving at the painful but inevitable conclusion that Donald Trump's America is no longer a geopolitical ally. In fact, for various reasons, it's our most serious geopolitical threat.

Greenland is not the only issue, but it's the issue that has brought this to a head. The USA, until very recently considered the 'leader of the free world', is happy to invade and take over the territory of a sovereign ally because it wants to loot its mineral wealth and has calculated that its former allies lack the strength or will to stand up to it. It pays no heed to international law, its own laws or any prior agreements and does not care one iota about damage done to anybody else.

Obviously, we need to talk about using tariffs and gunboat diplomacy, but the agenda runs even deeper. America's latest national security strategy explicitly mentions that it wants to bolster hard-right 'nationalist' parties and has pretty much written the great replacement theory narrative into official state strategy doctrine. They have told us who they are, and we should listen. America projects strength and Europe projects weakness, says Scott Bessent. Maybe it's time for Europe to project strength?

The EU, combined with Britain and Canada, can be a significant power in a new tri-polar world order. Individually, none of these nations can stand up to Trump in negotiations, but collectively, they have close to a fifth of the world economy and can have tremendous negotiation power.

Though I am not a fan of either, Emmanuel Macron and Mark Carney are the leaders who have first grasped the geopolitical urgency of the situation and know that appeasing a bully is a path to ruin.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jan/21/mark-carney-davos-canadian-prime-minister-donald-trump-new-world-order

My native Britain also needs to embed itself within this resistance and threaten Trump tariff for tariff, tax for tax, one for all and all for one.

This is not just about Trump. The Republican Party generally thinks the same. JD Vance, Stephen Miller, Marco Rubio or whoever will offer continuation of US policy. If there are still somewhat free elections in America (and there may well not be), then a Democrat might not win and might not fully roll back what Trump has done (domestically or internationally). To say the least, we can't rely on this, and we have to adjust. And now.

In addition, Western nations need to begin the process of completely decoupling their military and security apparatuses from America. A task particularly urgent in Britain, as spelt out by Zack Polanksi, the British Green Party leader.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk-politics/2026/01/trumps-threat-to-greenland-must-be-a-wake-up-call-for-britain

Yes, the old world order had plenty of hypocrisies and the rules were often broken, particularly by America itself. However, what is happening now is not the same. It's the end of old assumptions, and this is a dangerous time. Now there are no rules left to break, just brute force and a decaying world superpower led by people with boundless cynicism. This is the reality, and we adapt or die.
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Persephonee · 26-30, F
I think your last paragraph might be among the most important, not for tl;dr reasons (!) but because it recognises that the "rules" were never really there at all. It was convenient for America to uphold them (some of the time) - and ignore them when not. And the rest of us in the western world bought into the idea of a rules based order because we got to make all the rules.

Trump is unmitigatedly appalling but aside from everything he very definitely didn't do courtesy of his nice friend Jeffrey, I sometimes wonder whether his worst crime isn't just finally saying all the quiet parts out loud. All that's really different is making an attempt at a naked land grab directly rather than doing it by proxies.

Either way, maybe we all ought to go do confession just in case lol
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Persephonee Given my age and my politics, it probably wouldn't surprise you to learn that I was on demonstrations against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. American-led war crimes that our own government was complicit in.

Also, when we were a world superpower in the 18th and 19th centuries, we were absolutely a colonialist bully. The annexation of India (as one example) was a far worse crime than anything Trump has done.

Having said all this, I do think that what is happening now is a profound change. Trump does say the quiet bit our loud, but what he is doing is even worse.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@BabyLonia I agree. Over a longer period of time, we probably killed more people, and we definitely enslaved more: Both literally and figuratively.

Hitler derived inspiration from his own genocidal racism and also from two other nations: Britain and America. Britain's colonial expansion is something he envied, and he saw parallels with his attempted conquest of the USSR and the subjugation of native Americans.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Mark Carney's speech was genuinely extraordinary and I think is gonna be studied by polisci and economics students forever. Davos was the announcement of the end of neoliberalism and the replacement with whatever we'll call the next thing which will involve a lot of the energies of neoliberalism but notably - without a lot of the liberalism. Further entrenched alliances between groups that aren't all constitutional democracies and a move towards militarism over economic soft power. It's gonna kinda be closer to a pre-war arrangement but with the hyper insanity of modern capitalism.

And frankly much much more volatile.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@CountScrofula In a sense, neoliberalism has already ended in the last two decades with hyper-financialization, cloud capitalism and monopoly takeover ending the pretence of the free-market. This isn;t open competition for goods and services.

Though you are completely right. European nations are arguably sliding towards Trumpist authoritarianism anyway. Sometimes from far-right parties and sometimes from centrist adaptation. See Starmer's authoritarian policies on policing and data as classic examples.

The potential resistance of surviving liberalism needs to make the European far-right own everything that Trumps American is doing and call out the brazen hypocrisy. It might well not be enough but it is something. ~

The left (with the arguable exception of France) is not in any position to replace the existing liberal framework with something better. I have to agree with Yanis Zaroufakis on that. If we have any hope of winning, we need time.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Burnley123 Right. And Carney, although very much being a Liberal is extremely high-handed and authoritarian within the rules. There is nothing gentle about his behaviour he just knows how much power the Prime Minister has and is using it with great purpose. He's probably going to be remembered as one of the great PMs (not by me lol) although the human cost for his project will likely be significant because there's no kindness in this as the welfare state gets carved off and put into Arctic sovereignty, more resource extraction, and trade with China. This is a Project and he is very very sure of it.
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Miram · 31-35, F
There were never international rules.

Europe would be confronting barely a fraction of the violence, dispossession, and instability it continues to normalize and benefit from elsewhere.

I don't see this as a new problem. I see it as retribution in slow motion.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Miram There were rules, but they were biased (in inception and application) towards the Western nations,

Though yes, it hasi obvious historical irony that Europe is now on the receiving end of neocolonialism. Maybe it is deserved. Like, have Western Europeans lost their whiteness? 🤣 The global majority people will not be crying rivers for our victimhood.

However, I have been consistently against all colonialism. I know you have read my posts on Palestine, and what has happened to them is several orders of magnitude worse. Likewise with Iraq, Libya and many other places.

Yet I still see Trump's America as a problem. It will take colonialism even further and subjugate even more people. As flawed and hypocritical as Europe is, I support its resistance to Trump's America.
Miram · 31-35, F
@Burnley123

You speak about the actions of Europe in the past tense.

It is the present.

I support the natives of Greenland.

I don't support the narrative that Europeans, espacially the European union as an entity are fighting against colonialism.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Miram Well, the Greenland people themselves have said clearly that given the choice, they side with Denmark.

I do support their actual independence, btw
BabyLonia · F
I am worried about the extremes Trump will go to and how he has no-one to answer to
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
Did you watch Mark Carney's speech?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@JimboSaturn No, but I read (and posted above) the article which has the same content. On this, he is exactly right.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@JimboSaturn I did , and it was excellent. That's the blueprint right there.
bookerdana · M
88% of the United States are against invasion ,about 60 % against buying Greenland
bookerdana · M
@Burnley123 Oh,man do we🤕 I didn't take it as un- American
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Elessar · 31-35, M
@bookerdana 88% would mean that even MAGA is split. 60% means that pretty much every republican is open to buying it. The latter isn't a good figure
val70 · 51-55
You think that Mark Carney could be Godzilla?
val70 · 51-55
@JimboSaturn Simple. We've started a new era, a time of monsters. Godzilla is a monster, but it helps humankind to survive nevertheless
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@val70 Well I think the monsters are the hegemons, the super powers, not the middle powers like Canada. I think Carney's point is that smaller nations should stick together to weather the whims of the big countries.
val70 · 51-55
@JimboSaturn He's someone who stands up to Trump. In his eyes he's not weak even if Canada is just middle size. I'm afraid that the thinking these days needs to be almost reversed. It's the words from The Godfather with the characters of a Japanese monster movie. The Belgian Prime Minister is right about the choice given by Trump: happy vassal or miserable slave. We need all to stand up to him like Carney does. I'd just sell every little US stock, dollar or money order. One sudden action that will sink his boat. But that's again monsterous indeed

 
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