A 6 month old baby is in the hospital due to fed border agents

@Roundandroundwego BarryO deported 3 million. Nobody on the other side interfered . Zero violence . Zero protests. What we see isn’t pro immigration. It’s anti Orange.

@AthrillatheHunt people like me objected to Obama's deportations and called him the "deporter in chief". But as a leftist, I know I'm "nobody" to you real Americans who exist because you're center and right together! Uniparty normies don't hear a thing we say!
And obviously you're right! American people like deportations and violence. Except the unfair haters!

@Roundandroundwego a fitting title with zero staged outrage like we see now . Orange hasn’t even hit 6 figures and people are losing their minds.

@AthrillatheHunt False comparison. I never saw anybody tear gassing babies and old ladies, arresting toddlers, or shooting dogs in houses they had no business being in under Obama. That's all happened under Trump, and more.

@ItsMeMorgue you’re exactly the type of person I’m talking about: anti Orange , not pro immigrant . And I suppose you not seeing it means it didn’t occur huh ? Out of sight out of mind right

@AthrillatheHunt How do you know I'm not both? What, just because I'm telling you the truth?
No, but the fact that there wasn't video footage means it's much less likely that it occurred. And if it did, it certainly wasn't as a direct result of orders from a dog killing, goat slaughtering bird-legged 304.

@ItsMeMorgue
I'll have to remember that lol

@AthrillatheHunt
1. People were protesting immigration enforcement before Trump. There were protests under:

Bush

Obama

and yes, Trump

So the idea that opposition suddenly appeared just because of Trump isn’t true.

2. “Obama did the same thing” is a half-truth. This line gets used a lot, but it flattens important differences.

What’s true:

Obama deported a large number of people.

ICE existed and operated under Obama.

Families were separated in some cases (often due to prosecution policy).What’s different:

Intent and framing: Obama framed enforcement as targeting recent border crossers and serious offenders. Trump explicitly used deterrence through cruelty as policy (family separation was intentional, not incidental).

Rhetoric:

Trump publicly dehumanized immigrants. Obama did not.

Policy design:

Trump removed discretion and safeguards that previously reduced harm.

So: same system, different use of power.

3. Why protests intensified under Trump

Even people who criticized Obama often saw Trump as:

Escalating enforcement

Normalizing harsher treatment

Using ICE as a political symbol

Pairing policy with inflammatory rhetoric

That combination is why protests grew louder—not because people suddenly “noticed” ICE.

4. The talking point’s real purpose

Saying “Obama did it too” is often less about accuracy and more about:

Deflecting criticism

Framing protesters as partisan rather than principled

Avoiding discussion of how and why policies differ

You can acknowledge Obama’s flaws without pretending all administrations are morally identical.

@SatanBurger I would just like to thank you for having the patience to spell it out for @AthrillatheHunt. I have neither the time nor the crayons.

@ItsMeMorgue Yeah I wanted to because they use it a lot. It comes up every time I write about what's happening with ice. People called Obama the deporter in chief but he wasn't aggressive.

If Obama had done the same thing, it would have been the same.

Regardless, I don't know why they can't just have empathy for individual cases. It's really odd how they'll be kids hurting and a bunch will bring up Obama and stuff rather than being concerned for the welfare of others.

@SatanBurger I guarantee that if it was a MAGA rally against the use of pronouns and rainbows, and the police started tear gassing people, there would be nationwide riots.

@ItsMeMorgue sorry, Barry illegally embargoed Venezuela and killed thousands, mostly children, Cherry picking Dem.

@Roundandroundwego
What are you guilty of, and what are you?

@ItsMeMorgue plagiarism and lazy.

@Roundandroundwego Correct.