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A 6 month old baby is in the hospital due to fed border agents

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AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Yea but is the baby a US citizen ? Sorry couldn’t resist I know it’s tasteless.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@AthrillatheHunt I know you are joking.
Northwest · M
@AthrillatheHunt
Yea but is the baby a US citizen ? Sorry couldn’t resist I know it’s tasteless.

Yes it's tasteless.

Family of in the van, ICE tossed at least a a teas gas canister right under the van. Yes the entire family is US born and were not part of a protest, but they're the "wrong" color.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@Northwest pinko commies ?
PeterByres55UK · 56-60, M
@Northwest Rubbish
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@Northwest
Family of in the van, ICE tossed at least a a teas gas canister right under the van. Yes the entire family is US born and were not part of a protest, but they're the "wrong" color.

You are making it sound as though ICE deliberately attacked family who was trapped in a mess created by protestors. Immigration and Customs Enforcement should be protected by a curfew imposed on areas to be targeted. Protestors violating curfew should be arrested as well. A week in the slammer eating prison slop is what they need.
Northwest · M
@sree251
You are making it sound as though ICE deliberately attacked family who was trapped in a mess created by protestors. Immigration and Customs Enforcement should be protected by a curfew imposed on areas to be targeted. Protestors violating curfew should be arrested as well. A week in the slammer eating prison slop is what they need.

Looks like they need to bring you up to speed on the US Constitution. We are free to express our opinion.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Northwest
Looks like they need to bring you up to speed on the US Constitution. We are free to express our opinion.

Freedom to express opinion is not to be confused with interference with and obstruction of governmental law enforcement. This include looting and burning in the name of freedom of expression.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@sree251
Freedom to express opinion is not to be confused with interference with and obstruction of governmental law enforcement. This include looting and burning in the name of freedom of expression.

Good thing they chose not to listen to people like you during Nazi Germany. You always want people to obey the govt and if they protest or speak out, they must be horrible people with no valid points what so ever, nothing to see here. I'm sure that's what most Germans said back then too.

Ice are now going door to door without warrants or nothing. So it's all irrelevant. If trump would have taken a better way of immigration enforcement none of this would be happening. You act like people aren't fighting for their rights or something but they are.

Case in point, an elderly male was dragged out of his home and not allowed to put clothes on and then sent back home after it was found be was a us citizen.

It's sad I have to mention us citizen because if they are immigrants maga would just say too bad and whatever pathetic stuff maga cultists want to say about it.

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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@sree251 Nope. The cars could go around her, she wasn't "clearly blocking the road. "
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SatanBurger
Good thing they chose not to listen to people like you during Nazi Germany. You always want people to obey the govt and if they protest or speak out, they must be horrible people with no valid points what so ever, nothing to see here. I'm sure that's what most Germans said back then too.

Why bring up Nazi Germany? I was not born then, and neither were you. I happen to like the German people and their culture. Most of the migrants to America were Germans.

Ice are now going door to door without warrants or nothing. So it's all irrelevant. If trump would have taken a better way of immigration enforcement none of this would be happening. You act like people aren't fighting for their rights or something but they are.

I agree with you that the hunting down of illegals do come across as rough. The country is infested with illegals like a home filled with insects and rats. Only way to deal with them is to spray insecticides and smoke the rodents out. You have got to let the exterminators do their job.

Case in point, an elderly male was dragged out of his home and not allowed to put clothes on and then sent back home after it was found be was a us citizen.

If you live in a rat nest and the exterminators are catching rats, bad things can happen. It gets worse if you look like a rat and can't produce a photo ID on the spot. The elderly male probably had no ID and hablar espanol. Any why was he half naked? It's winter. I can't afford to dress like him in the house with my HVAC done to 60 degrees to cut down on heating cost. Is he rich?

It's sad I have to mention us citizen because if they are immigrants maga would just say too bad and whatever pathetic stuff maga cultists want to say about it.

Keep politics out of this.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@sree251 video shows she was parked like that for about 5 minutes waiting in ambush . Even the media are no longer saying she was murdered.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@AthrillatheHunt which media is saying she wasn't murdered, got a moderate source for that?
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@SatanBurger MSNBC CNBC The View (obviously their legal departments gave them a heads up regarding law suits ).
They now only say she was killed as of today 1/19/26
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@AthrillatheHunt I seriously doubt that. I've never seen any news article saying it was murder, that's why I asked if you had any. There have been multiple ice agents and law enforcement who saw the same video that have claimed that it was murder though, or at least saying the ice agent was clearly not justified in shooting her.

I think you're using appeal to authority logical fallacy. You want to act like the news have said murdered and then suddenly changed all their articles mysteriously to fit the pro ice pro Trump narrative. You're even saying there's video of her blocking traffic but we all saw the same video of ice agents being able to go around her.

Furthermore, many news stations have independent journalists who give their own opinion so that's a clear difference between the journalists and the news site itself.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
sree251 · 41-45, M
@AthrillatheHunt
video shows she was parked like that for about 5 minutes waiting in ambush . Even the media are no longer saying she was murdered.

She probably wasn't someone you would want to tangle with. These days women aren't women at all. They could take apart any guy and spit him out. Still, she shouldn't have been taken out with a gun at close range even if she was driving off without regard to the agent infront of her. If he had the presence of mind to draw his weapon and shoot, he could have elected to jump out of her way. Shooting someone is a deliberate act of killing a human being. It is not a doable act unless you have been conditioned to kill reflexively.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@sree251Aside from the legality , I’m not a lawyer so my opinion isn’t worth a cent. I’ve mentioned many times in my opinion it was an overreaction by ICE. Again this is an opinion w ZERO knowledge of the law. But she was lying in wait . What law officers wound consider an ambush. That shows premeditation
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@sree251
Why bring up Nazi Germany? I was not born then, and neither were you. I happen to like the German people and their culture. Most of the migrants to America were Germans.

Because it draws parallels to back during those days.

Only way to deal with them is to spray insecticides and smoke the rodents out. You have got to let the exterminators do their job.

The only infestation is maga and people like you. Maga is an authoritarian movement because they can't make it in life. Can't say I blame you, I'd be authoritarian too if I was stupid and the only way for me to be successful was to force others.

If you can't do something through hard work, just try to force people to accept your lack of intelligence and then maybe you'll finally get a good job that an immigrant stole from you despite you being unqualified to do it. But never let that stop you, just threaten people and families, maybe you'll have the life you dream of.. maybe.

I mean come on, what in your mind makes you think you're peak human.

If you live in a rat nest and the exterminators are catching rats, bad things can happen. It gets worse if you look like a rat and can't produce a photo ID on the spot. The elderly male probably had no ID and hablar espanol. Any why was he half naked?

God forbid, someone naked and possibly in bed or relaxing in their own home 🏡

Yeah make fun of looks, you have no picture on here though.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@AthrillatheHunt Can you produce a different video of her lying in wait because the video I saw the agents could get around and he shot her when she turned her wheels in the opposite direction to take off. But they could always get around.
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@SatanBurger the video we all saw picks up 5 minutes after she blocked the road. She had been waiting there for 4/5 minutes before the widely seen video starts . It’s an important point from a legal perspective. It shows premeditation and motive. That’s why I used the terms ambush or lying in wait.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@AthrillatheHunt Okay well got a link?
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@AthrillatheHunt
It shows premeditation and motive

I agree, the video where the ice agent purposely steps in front of her car while it specfically states in police training not to do that is motive for murder.

Especially when in 2023 a study was conducted on ice agents and had 67 incidents where ice agents stepped in front of the car on purpose as a reason for shooting someone which is technically premeditated