Liberal lunatics March for renne good but not one word, not one poster not one March not one outrage for just some of these people that were killed by illegal immigrants. Can these people get some of that attention too?
Laken Riley (22) — Jogging on campus when she was beaten with a rock, suffocated, and assaulted. Rachel Morin (37) — A mother of five abducted on a hiking trail, killed, and hidden in a culvert. Kayla Hamilton (20) — A young woman with autism, bound, assaulted, and strangled in her own home. Jocelyn Nungaray (12) — Abducted, assaulted, and killed in Houston. Found in a creek. Larisha Sharell Thompson (40) — Shot and killed during a random attempted robbery in South Carolina. Jamiel Shaw II (17) — A high school athlete shot in the street.
Rachel morin (37) found dead after going for a job
Jennifer Ann Morton(48) killed by a illegal immigrant without a driving license under DUI
Katie Abraham
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Another point to add to the long list why this logic is erroneous, ICE is not removing criminals from the street, just people with families, own businesses, and are a visible minority. I don't have the data, but I'm sure the majority of people detained by ICE are not murderers.
@JimboSaturn They are here illegally. That’s the entire point of ICE. It’s literally in the name Immigration and Customs Enforcement. If someone enters or stays in a country unlawfully removal is the legal consequence. That’s not controversial. That’s how sovereignty works.
Every country enforces its borders. Canada included since you’re from there. Enter Canada illegally and you can be detained removed barred from reentry or even charged. Australia detains illegal entrants offshore. Japan deports overstays with long reentry bans. Mexico deports Central Americans every single day. European countries routinely expel people who violate visa terms. The US is not unique or extreme here.
Another flaw in your logic is the claim that ICE is just targeting families and business owners instead of criminals. ICE does not randomly pick people based on vibes or visibility. People end up in ICE custody because they violated immigration law often after contact with law enforcement or a court order. Having a family or a job does not erase illegal status. If it did immigration law would be meaningless.
And let’s be honest saying most ICE detainees aren’t murderers is a weak argument. Immigration enforcement is not contingent on someone committing homicide first. You don’t get to stay in a country illegally until you commit a violent crime. That’s backwards. Laws don’t stop applying because enforcement makes people uncomfortable. If immigration laws are wrong change the law. But pretending illegal entry is optional or that enforcement is somehow immoral is just denying reality.
Under the Biden administration there were millions of illegal immigrant “encounters” recorded at the border and many people were released into the country rather than being immediately removed. Since 2021 there were over 10 million recorded encounters nationwide which include apprehensions and other contacts with people entering illegally or without proper documentation. Large numbers of people have been allowed into the interior with notices to appear in immigration court rather than immediate removal. So yes now we need to remove those 10 million including any from previous years that made it through.
That’s the real world impact Americans are dealing with. Considering you're in Canada you should worry about your own country. This is about the United States enforcing its own laws and why many Americans see this as a serious issue that affects jobs safety and public services. Enforcement and sovereign border control matter to Americans first and foremost. And yes I emphasize on many Americans over 77 million that voted for this exact thing. That's the beauty of it we conservative Americans don't go out rioting and acting like spoiled little children throwing tantrums we are quiet most of the time but you will see our reaction just as you did on November 2024 and just as you did when we said we're tired of taking care of Canada.
@JimboSaturn look at it this way. You know the neighbourhood I live in and all of the criminal activity that’s been going on lately. Do you think all of the married men with families are nothing but honest business men? What percentage of them do you think are not involved in criminal activity?
@Jenny1234 I don't know. I have no evidence. What is your point? I don't see how that has to do with an ICE officer shooting an unarmed woman. The truth is the violent crimes against women are caused by their fellow cititzens.
@Jenny1234 Yes. Are you still watching Rebel news and other far right neo-nazi websites? I suggest you educate yourself and watch adult news like Power and Politics on the CBC or other news outlets that fact check and have integrity.
@JimboSaturn well like I said you don’t need to be mean. You should try to understand other people’s points of views and if you can’t, at least treat them with respect
@Jenny1234 I don't treat hatred with respect. There comes a point where you have to take a stand. I would say the same for you? Have you even read or try to understand my arguements?
@Jenny1234 You haven't answered my questions though. This is not a simple issue of not agreeing about something, this is values. If you are racist or Nazi, or uniformed maple MAGA, i can't stand for that and be your friend. Sorry my conscience does not permit that.
@JimboSaturn i’m clearly not racist or Nazi or maga and you would know that if you knew my family, but you don’t. So if you, again, want to make presumptions about people that you don’t know anything about, go ahead. If you choose not to be my friend, that’s ok. I don’t need to have a bully as a friend.
@Jenny1234 Aren't you making presumptions about the people in your neighborhood? Are they illegal immigrants? You are the one supporting bullies, I am standing up for my values
@JimboSaturn I’m not making presumptions about all of them, but we know that not all of them are law abiding citizens. And the point I’m trying to make is that not every person coming into the United States or Canada is a law abiding citizen and we cannot be so naïve as to say that they are all family people when we don’t know their circumstances.
I am 100% in support of legal immigration. I am a first generation Canadian on my dad‘s side.
I am 100% happy to explain to you in private message, the cultural dynamics of my family.
@JimboSaturn I don’t even know the Renee good story. Our discussion is about illegal immigrants who commit crimes. That’s it. Aside from the fact that you’re accusing me of being racist because I’m against that.
@Jenny1234 This post is about comparing Renee Goods muder to the murder of the women above. You said "Amen" in agreement with the post. Yes some illegal immigrants are criminals but most of the crimes in Canada and the US are not caused by them.
@JimboSaturn I am only responding to the original post and to your subsequent comment in the photo here. I have not read any other comments from anyone else.
@JimboSaturn The original post is not even about this Renée good person. I think you need to go back and reread it. I have no idea what you’re talking about when you said this.
@Jenny1234 Its obvious what he is trying to defend. Everyone got that and he admitted that. This is how these MAGA types try to defend ICE. He was trying to say its hypocritical to feel outraged at Good's murder but not care about the murder of these women. His argument was thoroughly beaten by multiple respondents.
This is why I think we are arguing two different things. If you read all the replies from other people as well you can maybe see how I misread your response.
