I said on another post she was probably just trying to get away and not run the agent over. And it really can't be proven, which is sad.
I also said the agent may have thought she was trying to run him over, with all the chaos going on between the agents and civilians he overacted, their training is shoot the kill.
Did it affect him, because he got in his car and drove off. That may have been his first time shooting a person killing a person.
@Charity The ICE agents were a confused mess with no one person clearly in charge and no coordination.
From her perspective I would surmise she felt she was being swarmed by a crazed mob of disorganized, shouting, masked, and armed individuals and she was trying to comply.
I agree they are doing a difficult and in many cases far too dangerous job.
Today it's not like it was even 30 years ago and definitely prior to 30 years ago. People then generally did as instructed and in cases were abused by police force, not many cases reported back then of border patrol abusement.
People of today many don't comply and express their rights, which seems to irritate officers and for too many cases people try to use deadly force against officers so yes it is dangerous......... Which is why an officer may feel their life was in danger.
My personal feelings better training in determining when there are life or death situations is needed.
My personal feelings if a police officer even ice pulls me over, even in the days of yesteryear, I would comply, and these days it is better to comply because you don't know how they will react. Far too many cases where they deadly force and it is unnecessary when the person didn't comply.
It's a two-way street.
Haven't heard the details whether she resisted, the amount of resistance, the conversation. Still deadly force was not necessary.
I just saw a video taken from a different angle in the guardian newspaper and it shows ice agents having her blocked in, pulls up in the truck, gets out goes to her vehicle tries to open the door and she pulls off. As I thought she was trying to get away.
Trump administration unleashes torrent of untruths after woman shot dead by ICE | Trump administration | The Guardian https://share.google/wUqaBuNabPmyVedeA
@Charity I agree things are different now. And I hate to say it, but I think this "freedom" cult of Americans is at least partly to blame. Around my area, we have a responsibility to act legally and responsibility.. And our freedoms underpin that. Its not all about "I am free.. Get out of my way"😷
That's exactly what I was just saying in another post. Her wheels were turned right, trying to drive down the rooad. Some user said they were facing the officer but that was when she was backing up. She then put the car in forward and tried to turn right.
If you watch the eye witness interview, it seems as if the murder victim was trying to drive away, as instructed by ICE, but the ICE people were acting like a bunch of untrained people with guns, and while complying with instructions to drive away (as evidenced by the wheels turned right), some other ICE decided she needs to be murdered.
When she got shot, her body weight on the accelerator (dead weight), caused the car to go out of control, and crash into a parked car.
@Northwest Exactly. In fact the eyewitnesses have stated that some ICE agents were telling her to move her car and others were telling her to stay out of the car. No one was clearly in charge.
A white ICE vehicle was in front of her vehicle, she was parked in a wide bike lane or curb and backed up to try and get around the ICE vehicle and squeeze by when the agent stepped toward or in front of her vehicle.
@KunsanVeteran I saw the video interview of an eye witness yesterday saying ICE agents were screaming at her to move out of the way. I can't find the video right now but she will be seen again.
How is it even possible to tell which way the wheels were facing from a blurry photo like that? It looks like the wheels were straight.
I am not taking sides, just seems funny how people can draw solid conclusions from blurry photos at a distance.
It is sometimes like when they look at a bank security video and say, "Yep, in this still, we can clearly see it was in fact John Smith!" Like really now? 🤨
Renee Nicole Good was pulling a K-turn; only a fool or a completely untrained officer would step in front of a car pulling a K-turn.
The ICE thug didn't begin firing his weapon until he was out of the path of the vehicle. He was SAFE. He shot a fleeing "suspect." That's in direct contravention of ICE rules, not to mention common sense.
Here's the 110 page ICE Firearms and Use of Force Handbook https://imlive.s3.amazonaws.com/Federal%20Government/ID255426897069329047495080324203699905714/2.2.1_Attachment%2021%20-%20ICE%20Firearms%20and%20Use%20of%20Force%20Directive%20and%20Handbook.pdf
Page 12 includes the following: 4) Deadly force is not authorized solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect. Deadly force against a fleeing subject is only authorized if there is probable cause to believe that the escape of the suspect would pose an imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury to the officer or another person.
Also, Department of Homeland Security (DHS) guidance—specifically, 2014 ICE/Border Patrol use-of-force policies— “It should be recognized that a half-ounce (200-grain) bullet is unlikely to stop a 4,000-pound moving vehicle, and if the driver … is disabled by a bullet, the vehicle will become a totally unguided threat,” it says. “Obviously, shooting at a moving vehicle can pose a risk to bystanders including other agents.” https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-border-killings-20140227-story.html
Not taking up for the ice agent but searching for truth
from the video I saw on television his first shot was through the windshield immediately after she pulled off. And as she passed he fired two more shots in the driver's window.
And I found video to it'll show of the hole in the windshield. [media=https://youtu.be/ghIUu8jkkX0?si=rqs_zzFaLnEQoWam]
And we know people in law enforcements are authorized to use deadly force / what they need is to know when to use deadly force, he could have easily just stepped back and they could have gave pursuit or just let her go catch her another day, I'm quite sure they had her information.
If an "act of domestic terrorism" was being carried out right in front of trained agents why did the others not bother to draw their weapons even after shots were fired?
You can see in that 2nd still. The car is turned to the right. Look at the legs of the guy next to the door ...
See the legs of the agent who murdered this lady? Thats right, you can see both of his legs to the SIDE of the car, not in front. No matter which way you look at this from, this was murder.
I mean unless your a fascist bootlicker, in which case you say "She shouldn't have been there recording and this wouldn't have happened" try trying to shove trumps shoes further down your throat.
