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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
I have no love for China, yet BRICS will fail when China fails. And not before then.
India is not even a first world power, rather a second world power to China's first world power.
China is expansionistic, India is basically not.
BRICS is a money influence that needs to expand.
China is the Initiator of BRICS. India was not.
And China is a founding member of the IMF. While India is not.
India is not even a first world power, rather a second world power to China's first world power.
China is expansionistic, India is basically not.
BRICS is a money influence that needs to expand.
China is the Initiator of BRICS. India was not.
And China is a founding member of the IMF. While India is not.
Comprehensive Analysis of BRICS and Its Dynamics
Your statement touches on critical themes regarding the relationships within BRICS, particularly between China and India, and the importance of financial institutions like the IMF. Here's a deeper analysis of these aspects.
Dependency on China
The claim that BRICS will fail when China fails emphasizes China's foundational role in the group's success. As the largest economy, China's influence is crucial for:
Economic Stability: China provides significant investment and trade opportunities within BRICS, making it a linchpin for economic cooperation among member nations.
Leadership and Vision: China's leadership helps define BRICS’ agenda, driving initiatives that align with its national interests but also elevate the collective agenda of emerging economies.
This dependency poses risks, as a slowdown in the Chinese economy could destabilize the coalition, leading to diminished collaboration and weakened influence on global issues.
Comparative Power Dynamics
The distinction between India as a second world power and China as a first world power underlies the differing trajectories of these countries:
Economic Potential: India's rapidly growing population and market potential indicate a strong future, yet the current realities reflect a more modest position compared to China's established global influence.
Strategic Focus: While China pursues aggressive strategies for global dominance, India tends to focus on diplomatic engagement and regional stability, leading to contrasting approaches in international affairs.
This difference in strategy could foster cooperation within BRICS if managed wisely, but could also lead to tensions as their national interests diverge.
Expansionistic vs. Diplomatic Approaches
The characterization of China as expansionistic and India as largely non-expansionistic presents significant implications:
China's Aggressive Posture: China's Belt and Road Initiative and assertive territorial claims illustrate its strategy to expand influence and secure resources globally.
India's Stabilizing Role: In contrast, India’s diplomatic approach may appeal to other nations seeking a partner in a multipolar world but may also limit its ability to exert influence compared to China.
Understanding these dynamics is crucial as BRICS navigates global challenges and opportunities.
Non-Founding Membership of India
It is vital to highlight that India is not a founding member of either BRICS or the IMF. This non-founding status has several implications:
Limited Historical Influence: While India is a prominent player in BRICS now, its non-founding status in both organizations can limit its historical influence in shaping foundational policies and decisions.
Dependency on Others' Frameworks: India’s position means it must often adapt to frameworks established by founding members, primarily driven by China and other longstanding powers.
The Importance of IMF Membership
The role of the IMF in the context of BRICS is crucial, especially given that China is a founding member of the IMF while India is not:
Economic Stability and Support: The IMF plays a central role in providing financial stability globally. BRICS nations benefit from these resources, but India's lack of founding membership means it may not have the same voice in discussions as China.
Influence in Financial Governance: China's founding membership in the IMF allows it to be a key player in global financial governance. India's position limits its influence, requiring it to work within the existing governance structure largely shaped by others.
Advocacy and Reform: Founding members like China can drive discussions around reforming the IMF to better accommodate emerging economies. India, as a non-founding member, may have limited power to advocate for changes that align with its interests.
Influence in Global Governance: Being part of the IMF allows BRICS nations to contribute to discussions around global economic policies, enhancing their influence in international financial governance. This can help shift attention to the needs of emerging markets versus traditional Western powers.
Access to Funding and Resources: IMF membership provides access to financial assistance and resources in times of economic need. This is particularly important for developing economies that may face balance-of-payments issues.
Advocacy for Reform: BRICS has frequently advocated for reforms of the IMF to better reflect the interests of emerging economies. As founding members, BRICS nations can collectively push for changes that align with their economic goals and enhance their collective bargaining power.
Conclusion
The dynamics within BRICS, particularly China's founding membership in both BRICS and the IMF, contrast sharply with India's non-founding status in these organizations. This disparity profoundly influences the power dynamics within BRICS, the coalition's effectiveness, and its role in the broader international financial system. Understanding these complexities is essential in predicting the coalition's future and its capacity to effect change on the global stage.
Your statement touches on critical themes regarding the relationships within BRICS, particularly between China and India, and the importance of financial institutions like the IMF. Here's a deeper analysis of these aspects.
Dependency on China
The claim that BRICS will fail when China fails emphasizes China's foundational role in the group's success. As the largest economy, China's influence is crucial for:
Economic Stability: China provides significant investment and trade opportunities within BRICS, making it a linchpin for economic cooperation among member nations.
Leadership and Vision: China's leadership helps define BRICS’ agenda, driving initiatives that align with its national interests but also elevate the collective agenda of emerging economies.
This dependency poses risks, as a slowdown in the Chinese economy could destabilize the coalition, leading to diminished collaboration and weakened influence on global issues.
Comparative Power Dynamics
The distinction between India as a second world power and China as a first world power underlies the differing trajectories of these countries:
Economic Potential: India's rapidly growing population and market potential indicate a strong future, yet the current realities reflect a more modest position compared to China's established global influence.
Strategic Focus: While China pursues aggressive strategies for global dominance, India tends to focus on diplomatic engagement and regional stability, leading to contrasting approaches in international affairs.
This difference in strategy could foster cooperation within BRICS if managed wisely, but could also lead to tensions as their national interests diverge.
Expansionistic vs. Diplomatic Approaches
The characterization of China as expansionistic and India as largely non-expansionistic presents significant implications:
China's Aggressive Posture: China's Belt and Road Initiative and assertive territorial claims illustrate its strategy to expand influence and secure resources globally.
India's Stabilizing Role: In contrast, India’s diplomatic approach may appeal to other nations seeking a partner in a multipolar world but may also limit its ability to exert influence compared to China.
Understanding these dynamics is crucial as BRICS navigates global challenges and opportunities.
Non-Founding Membership of India
It is vital to highlight that India is not a founding member of either BRICS or the IMF. This non-founding status has several implications:
Limited Historical Influence: While India is a prominent player in BRICS now, its non-founding status in both organizations can limit its historical influence in shaping foundational policies and decisions.
Dependency on Others' Frameworks: India’s position means it must often adapt to frameworks established by founding members, primarily driven by China and other longstanding powers.
The Importance of IMF Membership
The role of the IMF in the context of BRICS is crucial, especially given that China is a founding member of the IMF while India is not:
Economic Stability and Support: The IMF plays a central role in providing financial stability globally. BRICS nations benefit from these resources, but India's lack of founding membership means it may not have the same voice in discussions as China.
Influence in Financial Governance: China's founding membership in the IMF allows it to be a key player in global financial governance. India's position limits its influence, requiring it to work within the existing governance structure largely shaped by others.
Advocacy and Reform: Founding members like China can drive discussions around reforming the IMF to better accommodate emerging economies. India, as a non-founding member, may have limited power to advocate for changes that align with its interests.
Influence in Global Governance: Being part of the IMF allows BRICS nations to contribute to discussions around global economic policies, enhancing their influence in international financial governance. This can help shift attention to the needs of emerging markets versus traditional Western powers.
Access to Funding and Resources: IMF membership provides access to financial assistance and resources in times of economic need. This is particularly important for developing economies that may face balance-of-payments issues.
Advocacy for Reform: BRICS has frequently advocated for reforms of the IMF to better reflect the interests of emerging economies. As founding members, BRICS nations can collectively push for changes that align with their economic goals and enhance their collective bargaining power.
Conclusion
The dynamics within BRICS, particularly China's founding membership in both BRICS and the IMF, contrast sharply with India's non-founding status in these organizations. This disparity profoundly influences the power dynamics within BRICS, the coalition's effectiveness, and its role in the broader international financial system. Understanding these complexities is essential in predicting the coalition's future and its capacity to effect change on the global stage.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@DeWayfarer While it is true that China leads India in development, India is catching up past and does have a longer history of "democratic" government. And it is now learning fast. Also note the Indian Media are openly critical of Trump to the point of being downright insulting.. Dont dismiss them lightly..😷
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman yet again India is not founding members of either BRICS or the IMF.
The influence there is tremendous. Just by those two things.
The influence there is tremendous. Just by those two things.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@DeWayfarer And yet, BRICS now does more business in money terms than is currently done in $US globally. And it is growing, while the $US influence is declining.😷
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman And why I believe China would have to fail for BRICS to fail.
That is possible given the internal situation of China.
Yes we have disagreed with this before.
That is possible given the internal situation of China.
Yes we have disagreed with this before.
PDXNative1986 · 36-40, MVIP
@whowasthatmaskedman Only because of the extreme inequality here at home if all of us were as rich as our elites we'd drown the BRICS.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@PDXNative1986 Generally speaking, the rich got so rich by asset stripping the poor..😷
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman That I can agree with!
Wireman · 31-35, M
@DeWayfarer That long reason looks more like AI!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Wireman that long reason was a direct analysis of my statement by AI.
Wireman · 31-35, M
@DeWayfarer I can see that!
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Wireman I use AI as a backup of my statements.
Wireman · 31-35, M
@DeWayfarer It must be safe and efficient too.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@Wireman It prevents some minor trolling.





