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Should the poverty line be $100,000 a year? $140K? Odell Beckham describes his own struggles to live on $20 million . . .



Photo above - Odell Beckham Jr poses with his Rolls Royce and other cars in his $9 million collection, while explaining why it's impossible to live on $20 million a year ("That's only $12 million after taxes")

I was caught off guard earlier this year when clickbait articles appeared, claiming an income less than $100,000 a year was “poverty”. (Mine is below that). I had always assumed that somewhere between minimum wage ($15-ish) and $30 was poverty. $100,000? That would mean every teacher and police officer in America is below the poverty line. So this claim is complete BS.

Then Investopedia (link below) saw that ante, and raised the bet to $140K. WTH!! That’s $70 an hour. All the Baristas who are on struje at Starbucks will have their heads explode. Okay, we have too many Starbucks in America anyway. If people want to pull themselves out of poverty they should make coffee at home, instead of popping out for a $7.50 (plus tip) Grande every morning. (Disclaimer - actual prices may be higher in LA, NY, etc.)

This is the problem with national poverty lines that cover all 50 states. And national minimum wages. People in high tax/high housing states will always feel poor. And their jobs will keep migrating to the flyover states, where anyone making $70 an hour is a big shot. Or those coastal big city jobs will be replaced by robots, and soon AI. If everyone insists on $140,000 a year, then robots and AI will replace everyone, and there will be nobody left to tax. Don’t say “tax the corporations”. We (consumers) pay those taxes at the cash register, as Donald Trump so ably reminded us this year.

Why is Odell Beckham Jr in the headline at top, though? He has a $100 million, 5 year NFL contract. And he worries if he can make those paychecks last the rest of his life, once he retires for good, or suffers a career ending injury. I imagine that if you live in Los Angeles mansion, the future does look bleak when you realize your highest earning years are behind you.

Don’t tell Odell to save more and spend less. He’s already tried that, just like you and me. It often seems impossible to curtail your clothing purchases, clubbing habits, new additions to your car collection, and of course the Starbucks fix. In Odell’s case we can assume he picks up the Starbucks tab for his entire entourage.

I’m not making fun of Odell. Even if he is a clueless dropout who played for 4 different teams in the past 4 seasons and was recently suspended for violating the league’s PED (performance enhancing drug) rules. Odell DID try to get a college degree from LSU, but he dropped out in 2014 at the NFL’s suggestion to sign with NY Giants. For $2.6 million. Odell has struggled to make ends meet ever since.

In yesterday’s column I covered some smart aleck money manager from Edward Jones, whos advice for everyone is “don’t put your money in an IRA. Just start your own business.” I doubt it even someone as rich as Odell will try that. He’s painfully aware of his own limited business skills. Odell's future may involve Nike and Pfizer TV ads (like Dak Prescott, Travis Kelse, and Russell Wilson). Odell had better figure out how to make THOSE paychecks last, because they’re certainly not going to amount to $20 million a year.

I’m just sayin’ . . .



Is the Real 'Poverty Line' $140,000 a Year?

NFL star Odell Beckham Jr. reveals struggle of living on $100M contract and breaks down how $20M/year goes fast after taxes. Could you make it last?
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Its people like him who really destroy the next generation. I have a down on professional sports people from the start. Sport is good exercise, builds teamwork attitudes and supports community. It isnt how you make a $Million. Go do something useful. Build something. Grow something.. Do some good. Get a real job..
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

I think it was Babe Ruth (circa 1930) who replied to a reporter's question about whether he (Ruth) should be embarrassed that his $50,000 salary was larger than President Hoover's.

"No, not at all," replied Ruth. "I had a better year than Hoover." Or words to that effect.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell That doesnt make it right.. It just demonstrates how long its been wrong..😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

Yes, but it was a lot less wrong in 1930.

Cumulative inflation since then has been a factor of about 25, so in today's dollars, Ruth would be making about $1.25 million annually.

The most highly-paid players in major league baseball currently make more than 100 times that.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Yes. And I understand why, with the Merch and sponsorships. These people are the modern day Gladiators. Now lets extend that thought. That makes the public, the bloodythirsty audience. There is something wrong with us that we make an industry out of this..😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

Yes, but baseball isn't a brutal sport like, say, boxing or MMA.

The ballplayers get these astronomical salaries because people and TV sponsors are willing to pay astronomical prices.

It must somehow pay.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Oh it does. Its the almost perfect product that allows people to feed their needs to belong and to conquer, without rising from their recliners..😷
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@whowasthatmaskedman sports is entertainment. like singing or acting.

odell doesn't realize he's basically a rapper in a football uniform, and that his career will be shorter than he expects. basketball and football scholarship students at universities should have to take a mandatory course on economics and budgeting, to prepare for the future.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Thinkerbell
The most highly-paid players in major league baseball currently make more than 100 times that.

That's because of a number of ways MLB has increased its revenue stream:

* Merchandising and memorabilia (just look at what fans wore to games in the 1930s and what they wear today)
* Radio broadcast revenue from licensing fees had only been marginally around in the 1920s (that reach nationwide)
* TV (that reach nationwide)
* Cable (that reach nationwide)
* International revenue from broadcasts and merchandising
* Bigger stadium to hold more fans (whose building costs are often reduced by cities and states helping to pay for them)
* ...and the players getting a larger share of that much, much bigger pie due to free agency

@whowasthatmaskedman
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@beckyromero

Yes, and we'll soon have billionaire sports figures, if we don't already.

Has Bernie complained about this "billionaire class" yet?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@SusanInFlorida Thats one perspective. The outlier to me is WWE. Part pantomime. all farce and giant rednecks.. I just dont get it at all.😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

"Part pantomime. all farce..."

Of course... but some people find farce and pantomime entertaining.

I mean, isn't that better than satisfying people's blood-lust by having gladiators really maiming and killing each other?
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell You think there isnt a connection between pretend violence and displays of anger and malice and the real thing?😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

Of course there is a connection... actors do it all the time.

Nevertheless, better pretend than do the real thing.

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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Agreed. And like violent computer games, they can influence a certain segment of the people. (Or why would the military use them as training tools?) and the repetition inoculates these people to the horror of the violence. Seeing "Wrestlers " rage, scream and beat up other people and be lauded at heroes equally allows some others to do the same in Walmart or a Bank when frustrated.😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

And the people who do such things for real usually have a lesser crime record a yard long (at least in the US), only to have been released without bail or punishment for their previous crimes. 🙄
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Again Yes. Not how I would run the country..But thats how it is. I have often thought if people broke into my home and threatened me, its best for all concerned if they leave in bags..😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman


Why you no-good (gasp) MAGA Trumpist! 😲
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Not at all. I think you know my disdain of lawyers... Survivors might sue..😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

But the burglars' surviving relatives might sue! 😲
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell Only if they find the bodies..😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

Where will you hide the bodies? 🤔

Or do you have crocs in the back yard that will eat them up entirely? 🤔

And won't the neighbors inquire about all the shooting at 2 a.m.? 🤔
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell I have an aluminium baseball bat covered in shrinkwrap. We dont like guns here. And I dont ask the spiders what happens to the bodies. Plausible deniability. Just replace the shrinkwrap and its ready to go again. It may sound excessive. But asking a senior citizen to take on three teenagers unarmed is a bit much..😷
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@whowasthatmaskedman

Ok, so you don't have a gun.

But surely the three teenagers will start yelling loudly when you hit them (one at a time, presumably) with the bat.

Won't the neighbors inquire about all the shouting at 2:00 a.m.? 🤔
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@Thinkerbell No.. I am sure your recall my wife was Scottish..Shes in care now. But they are used to the unholy row..My biggest worry is the damage to the front door..😷