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The orange 🍊 clown 🤡 and Ukrane

So amusing to see him pushing the deal he Russians gave him
What a screw up, even Rubio said it!
Just obeying his boss Putin!
MAGA Make America Go Away
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The deal the Russians gave him? Pushing conspiracy theories now to keep a lost war going?

How is pushing to have thousands more Ukrainians die for your ideological exercise "pro Ukrainian."?

And it is objectively not something that came from the Russians.

1. they already said it is a non-starter.

2. It includes provisions that suggesting Russia is behind them is idiotic if you actually bother to read the document.

3. And the claim it came from Russia is based on literal guessing about the identity of "K" the alias of the person who leaked it.

It is very obviously something that came from the US side and since Keith Kellog resigned after it was leaked he is likely throwing a grenade on the way out.

The is also speculation it could also be Jared Kutchner.


4. Russia is winning on the battlefield. It make zero sense that someone winning war is going to randomly propose a peace plan that achieves none of their goals in a concrete way and gives massive concessions to their enemy and literally gives the enemy leader a kickback. It makes zero sense.


Liberal war mongers are just as incapable of critical thinking as the Lindsey Graham camp.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow So giving everything to Russia is what you want
Those who have seen the documents know it’s a bad translation
So stop lying because demented don us following orders
He’s flipped flopped and is already flip flopping again
It’s so laughable MATLSOTW
And unfortunately true
@Strictmichael75 The document in question objectively doesn't give Russia "everything they want."

Facts matter.


Again, conspiracy theories.

You clearly have not read the document. That is very obvious.

The only person lying here is you because you think it is "noble" to cheerlead bleeding Russia to the last Ukrainian from behind your keyboard.


Your feelings about Trump are totally irrelevant.

So are mine. I can't stand Trump but that has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

Your entire argument is one emotional outburst and nothing else.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow it gives them what they want for the moment, so as far as you are concerned Ukraine should capitulate?

The K in the document is Kirill Dmitriev and after European officials who have seen the document say it’s not written by an English spaking person

As you say, facts matter
@Strictmichael75 No it objectively does not.


Ukraine is objectively losing. There is no changing that.


Again. With that conspiracy theory. There is zero evidence to support that claim. And it also shows you know nothing about what is going on. Dimitriev is not even a government official and has zero authority to do anything on behalf of the Russian government.

At least learn the bare minimum about countries you accuse of wild conspiracy theories.

Nothing you have said is factual.


And there is nothing heroic about some keyboard warrior who has no skin in the game demanding Ukraine fight to the last man, woman and child for an American political narrative.

If you think it is so noble man up and volunteer.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow for your information, as you are badly informed, Dmitriev is Putin’s envoy, you should look him up
So tell me, where are you from?
As you certainly have a misguided opinion of Ukraine and it’s people
They are not, as you say, fighting for an American narrative
@Strictmichael75 The only uninformed person is you. You assume everyone involved in a diplomatic envoy is a government official even though that is not true in any country but you need it to be true for your conspiracy theory.

Dmitriev is the Russian equivalent of the head of the US Chamber of Commerce. He has no authority to do anything official about anything. His only capacity is as a business advisor to the diplomatic team. If you bothered to educate yourself instead of starting with a conspiracy theory and working backwards you would know this.

Clearly you never looked him up yourself. 😂


Not that it is relevant but I am Canadian. I lived for 15 years in a Ukrainian enclave here where Canada like the US welcomed Banderite Nazi collaborators with open arms and made sure their evil ideology lived on for 80 years. Many of them scurried back to Ukraine in 1991, but many did not. Many have fled back here because they don't even want to fight for the bandits in Kiev. Fun fact the Ukrainian Canadian Congress was founded by the OUN-B basically the Ukrainian waffen SS.

The other half of the diaspora are largely polish Ukrainians who fled the first group 80 years ago when they were being mass murdered by "Nationalists" like Stepan Bandera and the OUN-B.

And Zelensky and company are absolutely fighting an American war and you are fighting their ideological war for them demanding others go and die for your ideological exercise.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow you certainly are a friend of Putin
I don’t know who or what you are
Or from which planet you are from
@Strictmichael75 And proving my point you ignore every fact that doesn't fit your cold war brainwashing and just scream "Putin". You are no different than Trump claiming everything that he doesn't like is fake news.


Don't think, ignore facts. Just blindly believe in the American empire. No brain required.

You are no different than Joseph McCarthy and company.
@Strictmichael75 Must be nice when you can just ignore all facts and evidence you don't like and resort to slander.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I am not ignoring all the facts
You seem to be
But keep trying
So where exactly are you from???
@Strictmichael75

That is exactly what you are doing. Anything that doesn't fit your political narrative you have dismissed out of hand and done nothing but slander me.

It is lazy and sad.


Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow keep it coming
You still haven’t answered where you are from, so stay hiding
@Strictmichael75 OMG. You just proved my point. You didn't read a thing I wrote and just completely ignored everything and just scream "Putin" and dismiss everything you don't like like a toddler.

Predictable.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow keep it coming
You just can’t answer a simple question, can you?
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@Strictmichael75 Either you have a severe reading comprehension issue or you simply refuse to education yourself. Either way it is a you problem.
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow you just want to see Ukraine give up its identity
So do what you want