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One thing that everyone can agree on about Trump, is that he'll go down in history and kids will learn about him in school for generations to come.

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He'll go down in history as a positive influence on the world
He'll go down in history as a negative influence on the world
Somewhere in between, he won't go down in history as either a good or bad person
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The argument would be though is how he'll be viewed lol pretty much everyone either loves him or hates him, and those that hate him do so with a passion.
How do you feel people will think of him in the future?
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RosaMarie · 46-50, F
Yes, like Hitler.
AmericanAvenger · 56-60, M
@RosaMarie Or like Obama or Nixon or Lincoln.
RosaMarie · 46-50, F
@AmericanAvenger Lincoln is remembered for sacrificing all to keep our union. So no, not like Lincoln at all.
AmericanAvenger · 56-60, M
@RosaMarie @RosaMarie Abraham Lincoln, while often celebrated, had several negative aspects, including his initial focus on preserving the Union over ending slavery and his belief that Black Americans should not have equal rights. Additionally, he supported colonization efforts to relocate freed Black people, reflecting his complex and sometimes contradictory views on race and equality.

An awakening of educated black Americans with the capability of critical thinking and honest, unfiltered historical analysis (such as myself) have come to acknowledge the full truth of Lincoln's legacy. Time has shown us that the unflattering subtext like this often gets written out of American history.

Try again
Northwest · M
@RosaMarie Was about to say the same thing.
RosaMarie · 46-50, F
@AmericanAvenger There's a lot about Lincoln we don't know. If you want to view all of his decisions as indicative of his reservations about blacks being equal and deserving equality, then you'll come to the conclusion that he was partially racist, not really trying to free blacks, but forced into it by the necessity of his situation. Or you could assume he was all for emancipation, but held back to keep himself politically viable. After all, he needed to win an election during a long war, which is a hard sell. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle. Which is so often the case. So no, I don't accept your skewered view.

Try again.
AmericanAvenger · 56-60, M
@RosaMarie Americans know what I posted. They are historical facts. I didn't propose that you accept them. I couldn't care less. The acknowledgement of the truth and a comparison of Trump to Hitler don't tend to be positions that coexist in a rational and intelligent American.
Northwest · M
@RosaMarie
There's a lot about Lincoln we don't know. If you want to view all of his decisions as indicative of his reservations about blacks being equal and deserving equality, then you'll come to the conclusion that he was partially racist, not really trying to free blacks, but forced into it by the necessity of his situation. Or you could assume he was all for emancipation, but held back to keep himself politically viable. After all, he needed to win an election during a long war, which is a hard sell. The truth is likely somewhere in the middle. Which is so often the case. So no, I don't accept your skewered view.

Try again.

I don't see the comment you're responding to, so that user blocks me, most likely a MAGA.

At the time Lincoln issued his executive order on January 1, 1863, the Emancipation Proclamation would not have been the politically expedient thing to do.

While the Northern States rejected slavery, they were not necessarily living in post-racism USA. Rejecting slavery is not the same thing as all Americans are truly equal.

Was Lincoln a racist? Probably somewhat, just like most people at the time. But he also knew there was something fundamentally wrong, and he risked all to fix it.

History also tells us that he was willing to hold off, had the South not started the war, to preserve the Union.
RosaMarie · 46-50, F
And she blocked me too