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Word up, Germany! Don’t blame tariffs or China for your auto sales tanking here in America . . .



Photo above - German auto sales are tanking in America. Is this upcoming Hyundai electric van an existential threat to VW?

I was going to make today’s column about “Average US new car price exceeds $50,000 for the first time”. This endlessly repeated headline dominated the news cycle yesterday. But I realized this would just be clickbait for certain people to post anti-Trump rants after only reading one sentence. This is a much better story (link below): Germany’s auto industry facing historic decline”.

Germany’s car sales volume in the USA is off 6%. That’s not due to tariffs, since none have actually taken effect yet. Germany’s auto sales are off even more in The People's Republic of Communist China. The reason is that China’s EVs are quickly making ICE vehicles from Europe both obsolete and overpriced. Wages in Europe might be a factor.

The same thing could happen in the USA if Chinese EVs start showing up uninvited. Trump has – practically since inauguration day – promised huge tariffs on Chinese EVs. Anywhere from 25% to 100%. Biden was promising 100% tariffs even earlier, in an attempt to connect a defibrillator to his comatose campaign. Trump merely copied Biden's rhetoric.

I’m certain there’s a big market for affordable, city parking space sized EVs. At least if they’re well made. Nissan planked with its Leaf, and Chevy had to recall 100% of its Chevy Bolt cars for emergency battery transplants. The market for affordable EVs in the USA is dominated by Hyundai and Kia, which were punchlines to auto jokes a decade or so ago. Models from both of those brands have been named “electric vehicle of the year” recently.

The last time Chevy had an “electric vehicle of the year” it was the Volt, a vastly inferior copy of the Toyota Prius. The media obediently lined up behind President Obama to salute this exercise in mediocrity. By some measures federal agencies may have purchased up to half the total production volume of Volts. Do you see any on the road today? They're probably hiding in the back row of the General Services Administration lot in DC.

I’m pretty sure Hyundai and Kia pay their workers more than what someone in a Chinese factory gets. But certainly less than what US and German assembly line people make. I don’t think anyplace else on earth besides the USA has a $140,000 annual contract for union autoworkers. President Biden famously walked the Detroit picket lines to work this out, hoping to snag more union votes in 2024. Along with his promise of a 100% tax on Chinese cars.

I haven’t yet bought a pure EV. I currently own a Honda Civic Sport Touring Hybrid. I did, however, visit the local VW dealership recently, with a friend. He had been eyeballing the long promised, perpetually delayed VW ID-Buzz. All fully electric revival of the VW Bus minivan. My friend didn’t even get as far as the test drive. The dealer only had fully loaded “launch edition” models on the lot. $75,000 each. The base models – if and when they’re delivered – won’t be much better. Stickers are said to start at $65,000 for a bare bones model with content deletion related to safety equipment, comfort and range.

The VW ID-Buzz is the poster child for why German automakers have fallen into a pothole of declining sales. They had nearly a decade to get this thing right. And still brought something to market which any consumer focus group could have told them was overpriced for its target audience.

Hyundai is previewing it's all electric "Staria minivan to compete with the ID-Buzz. Advance info reveals it as sleek, futuristic and affordable.

I’m just sayin’ . . .



Germany’s Auto Industry Is Facing Decline. Here’s Why
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Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
I rented a BYD in the Philippines last year. Nice ride and heavy on tech. Too bad they've been tariffed out of the US and Canadian markets.

IF I were shopping for an EV Hyundai and Kia would be on my list. I have two Kias and am content with them. Easy to fix and parts are available and reasonably priced.

Over engineered German vehicles did it to themselves. Their quality is not what it should be, given their prices. Some people actually buy their vehicles instead of constantly renting (leasing) them.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Crazywaterspring over engineering. a friend of mine owned a lincoln (i forget which model). it had air suspension at all 4 wheels. After a fender bender the entire air system was inoperative. $4,000 to fix. on a car worth $4,000
ididntknow · 56-60, M
Do you think it might be the, blowing up of the Nordstream pipelines ( that America did, shhhhhhhh ) so Germany no longer has cheap energy from Russia, now Germany has to buy liquid natural gas from America, which is 5 times the price of Russian gas, hence, higher prices, it’s very good for America that destroyed the pipeline, but not very good, for German manufacturing 🧐
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@SusanInFlorida where do you get your information ? Mainstream media, CNN, MSNBC, NBC, ABC etc, ? Seymour Hersh is not a conspiracy theorist, you obviously look at mainstream media, and believe it’s the truth, it’s easier to fool someone, than it is to convince them, they’ve been fooled, what about the Biden laptop, do you believe that was real, or, a conspiracy theory, Russia gate, real, or conspiracy theory ?
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@ididntknow even Slate magazine now considers seymour hersh a nutjob conspiracy theorist. congrats to him for getting My Lai right. But no legitimate new organization has been willing to touch him for the past decade at least.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@SusanInFlorida I wonder why slate magazine, doesn’t like Seymour Hersh, just like all the mainstream media you watch, you’re propagandised, you just don’t know it, so, who do you think blew up the pipeline, then ask, why, what did they stand to gain, you can even see clips of polish politician, saying thank you USA, when the pipeline was destroyed, even liz Truss from the UK said the same thing, also Biden, saying he was going to get rid of the pipeline, Victoria Nuland saying the same thing, all the evidence is out there, you just need to want to see it, unfortunately, you aren’t a critical thinker, you have to read liberal magazines, watch liberal news, to get your information, don’t worry, there are a lot like you, they are called, useful idiots, or sheeple,
Avectoijesuismoi · 36-40
There looks to be a rather nice looking Ford GT coming next year that is going to be rear engines.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@Avectoijesuismoi i drive an ICE car (honda civic sport touring hybrid). that said, i think gas engines will be edged out by electric cars.

just like gasoline edged the Stanley steamers of a century ago.
Avectoijesuismoi · 36-40
@SusanInFlorida Not if I have my way I love a big V8 or V12 that I can step on and terrorize with it
I have had a Shelby Mustang GT 500 improved it is a 50th anniversary car that produces 1600 BHP it kicks ass so does its big Bang and Olufsen sound system, I also have a 1967 Mustang that is currently still being finished off being turned into Eleanor that will produce 1050 bhp. and there is a rebuilt Mustang GTD that is receiving an upgrade I like cars that go through the 200 mph barrier.
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SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@ineedadrink toyotas continue to lead the world in "longevity". but their styling is hilariously bad. they look like dying catfish.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Nothing lasts forever..😷
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wildbill83 · 41-45, M
Germans are making the same mistake as everyone else, rather than stick with what works, they keep engineering & "innovating" their quality & durability into the garbage bin...
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@wildbill83 @wildbill83 i'm not sure. there isn't really a high demand for air cooled, rear engined cars. really only one automaker is still trying to make those work
wildbill83 · 41-45, M
@SusanInFlorida not much demand for eco-shitboxes that cost a fortune and break down in under 100k miles either...

 
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