What do your politicians do for you?

Near as I can tell the liberals offer the same ever-worsening status quo and the conservatives just want to get rid of people who never did anything to me.

Particularly at a federal level does anyone actually offer policy that improves your life? The only person who seems to do better and better is whoever my boss is at any given time, and those guys didn't need the help.

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GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

I think you see both sides in the right/left game for what they really are.

But in the US, people who are leaving both parties to become independents have learned the lesson - And they're the real majority now. Give them a little time.

Everything is broken.

But that doesn't mean nothing can be fixed.

BorealPedant · 41-45, M

@GuiltyBiStander Who do you think they really are? This isn't a leading question, I probably agree with you. I think left and right are actual real concepts but the way they're used by political parties means it's just a cup and ball game and the ball is in the con artist's hand.

GuiltyBiStander · 31-35, F

@BorealPedant

I think no one in the US with a clear memory of what Republicans or Democrats once stood for really recognizes either party today.

I'm not old enough to be part of that history, but what I see now totally disgusts me. The idea that hardcore MAGA supporters are true "conservatives" is ridiculous. And so-called progressives who think they can play identity politics while ignoring economic & social outcomes are anything but "liberal".

What are they ? I think they're scavengers fighting for whatever power they can grab for themselves right now, instead of trying to build a better future for anyone else.

But nothing that looks certain now will last. Both sides will be forced to reform by people who've finally had enough.

BorealPedant · 41-45, M

@GuiltyBiStander I hope so. They REALLY don't want to. The Republicans are going full police state while the Democrats are basically just a fundraising grift at this point.