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pdockal · 56-60, M
Free speech in the U.S. under the First Amendment, is not limitless; it excludes categories like true threats, incitement to imminent lawless action, obscenity, defamation, and fraud, as well as speech integral to illegal conduct and, in some contexts like schools, disruptive speech. These categories of speech are considered "unprotected" and may be restricted by the government because their harm is more immediate and severe than mere offensive opinions.
@pdockal None of that's relevant to the reactions to Charlie Kirk's murder though, is it?
pdockal · 56-60, M
@wishforthenight
Hmmmmmm
Does their comments promote further assinations ?
Does their comments incite lawless actions ?
Does it defame the deceased?
Is it disruptive to classrooms ?
You tell me
But I'm sure you'll try to spin it away from the truth
Hmmmmmm
Does their comments promote further assinations ?
Does their comments incite lawless actions ?
Does it defame the deceased?
Is it disruptive to classrooms ?
You tell me
But I'm sure you'll try to spin it away from the truth
@pdockal Yes. The left do not advocate for more violence. It's the right, and the right alone.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@pdockal I'm sorry, but it's fact.
https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-data-shows-extremist-related-murders-set-increase-2025-despite-third
In 2024, ADL published an article detailing a recent increase in Islamist terrorist incidents in the United States, including several plots to cause mass casualties.
The ADL Center on Extremism’s annual Murder and Extremism report also found that all extremist-related killings of 2024 were connected to right-wing extremism, with eight of the 13 killings involving white supremacists and the remaining five having connections to far-right anti-government extremists. This is the third year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings.
The ADL Center on Extremism’s annual Murder and Extremism report also found that all extremist-related killings of 2024 were connected to right-wing extremism, with eight of the 13 killings involving white supremacists and the remaining five having connections to far-right anti-government extremists. This is the third year in a row that right-wing extremists have been connected to all identified extremist-related killings.
https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-data-shows-extremist-related-murders-set-increase-2025-despite-third
pdockal · 56-60, M
@wishforthenight
The ADL has been widely criticized for equating anti-Zionism—the political opposition to Israel's statehood—with antisemitism. This stance is viewed by critics as an attempt to silence and delegitimize pro-Palestinian advocacy.
Progressive Jewish groups like Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) and IfNotNow have criticized the ADL for what they describe as "weaponizing" false claims of antisemitism against Palestinian rights supporters. A 2020 campaign called #DropTheADL, launched by a coalition of progressive organizations, argued that the ADL is not an ally in social justice efforts.
A 2025 Jewish Currents report found that the ADL's data on antisemitic incidents was politicized. The report concluded that the ADL inflated the proportion of incidents from the pro-Palestinian movement while undercounting those from white supremacists and the far-right.
In 2024, volunteer editors of the English Wikipedia voted to classify the ADL as "generally unreliable" on issues related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The editors cited significant evidence that the ADL acts as a "pro-Israeli advocacy group" that has published misleading statements
Conservative critics argue that the ADL has expanded its focus beyond combating antisemitism to embrace progressive social and political issues, such as affirmative action and LGBTQ+ rights, which they claim alienates conservative American Jews.
NICE FUCKING TRY
The ADL has been widely criticized for equating anti-Zionism—the political opposition to Israel's statehood—with antisemitism. This stance is viewed by critics as an attempt to silence and delegitimize pro-Palestinian advocacy.
Progressive Jewish groups like Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP) and IfNotNow have criticized the ADL for what they describe as "weaponizing" false claims of antisemitism against Palestinian rights supporters. A 2020 campaign called #DropTheADL, launched by a coalition of progressive organizations, argued that the ADL is not an ally in social justice efforts.
A 2025 Jewish Currents report found that the ADL's data on antisemitic incidents was politicized. The report concluded that the ADL inflated the proportion of incidents from the pro-Palestinian movement while undercounting those from white supremacists and the far-right.
In 2024, volunteer editors of the English Wikipedia voted to classify the ADL as "generally unreliable" on issues related to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. The editors cited significant evidence that the ADL acts as a "pro-Israeli advocacy group" that has published misleading statements
Conservative critics argue that the ADL has expanded its focus beyond combating antisemitism to embrace progressive social and political issues, such as affirmative action and LGBTQ+ rights, which they claim alienates conservative American Jews.
NICE FUCKING TRY
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