When a cult full of bigots takes your wife and the mother of of your children away...

@Jackaloftheazuresand Just what standards do you and your Trump pals stand for?

It certainly does not seem to be the Constitution and the rule of law.

@JSul3 You're a propagandist whose posts are probably 90% political in nature. You want an answer from then answer the question yourself first

@Jackaloftheazuresand I believe in truth and facts....not 'alternative facts' or 'alternative reality.'

I believe in the Constitution and the rule of law.

I believe in freedom, and liberty, and justice for all....not just a select few.

Your turn.

@JSul3 Really? Would a man who believes in justice try to sway others with expense over the liberation of the exploited
https://similarworlds.com/politics/5273401-Want-a-Made-In-USA-iPhone-Heres-how-much-a-Made-in-the-USA

When you're ready to stop lying you can try again

@Jackaloftheazuresand So, you deflect and refuse to provide your position.
Typical....and duly noted.

@JSul3 spare me the act, we are both aware you aren't above doing the same

@Jackaloftheazuresand Once again you refuse to provide your position.

Why?

You said: "You want an answer from then answer the question yourself first."

You posed the question to me and I replied....while you hide and refuse.

What are you afraid of or perhaps what are you ashamed of?

@JSul3 You didn't speak the truth, you lied. You called the explanation I gave you for why your reply was inadequate a deflection. Until you resolve that then you have not satisfied the prerequisite.

@Jackaloftheazuresand Pound sand.

@JSul3 I'm a lot more intelligent than you, come prepared next time

@Jackaloftheazuresand I post an article on Apple phones being mfg in the US and you call me a liar.

LOL.

You're suffering from a delusional superiority complex.

@JSul3 Everyone knows your intention in doing so, you don't give two hoots about justice because a man who did would know the difference in expense is due to the exploitation of labor. You only care about "winning." Doesn't matter what your opponents do, you will go out of your way to use something against them including embracing evil. You will speak out of both sides of your mouth and then you will die and nobody will care because you never contributed anything good into this world, just another unscrupulous creature lying to itself and everyone else.

@Jackaloftheazuresand

Tell me.... what values are left in the republican party except for loyalty to the leader?

@Kwek00 Obviously the one here is immigration enforcement. So are you going to accept that it's not zealotry or are you just going to try to dig up a body to gawk at like this other guy did?

@Jackaloftheazuresand Oh... so the guy votes for a guy that wants to deport his wife... then why even marry her, what about that "family" these bums are always talking about? I guess all of that is out of the window when the great leader makes a descision.

@Kwek00 Looks like they just did a routine investigation, not "wanting to deport his wife" as you claim.

So your issue is that the right upholds the family and you see this as a betrayal of that? The man knows his wife but he also knows that the government doesn't, he understands they must dot their i's and cross their t's in order for the process to work. People are acting like they just came in and blew her head off(which if she were some kind of terrorist I'd also be fine with but at least I'd understand why one would be irrevocably upset by that because we can't just bring people back to life)

@Jackaloftheazuresand Is she back yet? Because I haven't found a single source that says she's out of detention?

And why is she being detained again? Her biggest crime is being an Iranian... that's it. This wouldn't have happened under other leadership, but it does with this administration, because their xenophobes.


No, that's not my issue, read again.

I also love how you talk about "the process to work", when ICE has been constantly under scrutiny for not knowing how the process works. Hell, even the administration makes it clear that they don't really want the process to work. The head of ICE said they wouldn't listen to judges, and Stephen Miller is just sending out messages how the US is in a war-like situation and that in those situations the process is holding people back from being secure. So if you want to talk about the process working, maybe support a party that cares about that.


See, you don't even care about the process, because you would just be fine with this. 🤷‍♂
"If she is a terrrorist", isn't going to help you out, when the task of a police officer is not to make a verdict. They need to make a case so that a judge can make a verdict. This isn't Judge Dredd.

@Kwek00 You ask that question but why haven't you also asked has she been deported?

No it's not, she had a theft conviction which saw her green card revoked. She's had a questionable status that's been in limbo since 2009. Other leadership has their own faults and demons so I wouldn't take that as any sort of comparison point.

What exactly am I supposed to be reading again? You asked me about these bums and family so if that's not your issue then why'd you even bring it up?

You're thinking of the wrong process and again, critics in America mean nothing because they make up legalese crap all the time. Can't really trust them.

The process I'm talking about is safeguarding our nation. Sure they do, police all over the world are empowered to enact death sentences.

@Jackaloftheazuresand

Even if she's detained for 5 days... on what grounds? The family said that they haven't heared of her since that happened. Where is the lawyer? Where is the process exactly?


Why are so many people in Limbo Lazarus? Why is that happening... Last week there was a guy from the Cato institutute in the congress, explaining that to people. It's happening, because the republican party refuses to do anything to smoothen out the immigration process. The reason why there is a "immigration crisis", is largely because the party that is crying about it is unwilling to do anything about it. Because they have been aiming for radical matters. Even in the last administration, when there was a bipartisan bill that was going to pass the legeslation, Donald Trump (not even in office) killed it with 1 phone call. Why? Because else he couldn't run the "immigration crisis"-issue.

And they didn't detain her for her hiccup of 2009, they detained her because of the fear of Iran. That's it, that's her problem.



That's not a process, that's an AIM. You can get to your AIM, but you have to follow the process. Your executive branch isn't supposed to be above the law.



No they are not, not in western democracies. They can use lethal force under strict rules, and after they do, they'll become investigated. They aren't empowered to exact death sentences. Wtf.

@Kwek00 She was given an order of removal after a criminal conviction. She had her day in court then.

By smooth out did he mean do things his way? We're doing something about it now aren't we but we got people from other countries butting their heads in whining about it, never wanting to do what's necessary but instead just half-measures or absolute subservience to their designs.

I'd argue that it's a conjunction of the two, that she happens to be an Iranian with such history moves her up the line. You've maintained this position even with this new information served up to you whereas before you believed that she had done nothing. Are you starting to realize that you might be too biased to look at this objectively?

A semantic statement. Checks and balances work in many ways, if the "law" is improper then the executive reserves the right go against it. And from what I see, there's a lot of illegal hindrances being made.

Does all that wordplay change the fact that someone dies?