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It’s happening! Apparently Audi will build a new $4 billion auto plant in USA, and create thousands of jobs . . .




[b][b]Photo above - guess which of these minivans costs, $70,000, and which was $2,000?[/b][/b]

Who says Trump’s back to the future fantasy to resurrect the 1950’s factory economy can’t happen? Step forward and take your medicine. Me too. I’ve been a consistent skeptic.

This just announced: Audi will build a $4 billion factory, which will probably parachute in close to VW's existing factories in Tennessee or South Carolina. (See link below). Sorry, UAW . . . these are unlikely to spawn thousands of $140,000 a year union jobs like Detroit is burdened with. The south will rise again – as a non-union, post-rust-belt manufacturing mecca.

Some analysts are predicting the new Audi factory will be co-located with the existing VW plants to leverage existing supply chains, back-office functions, and previously VW built road and rail infrastructure. So far so good. But without turning to my dark side, can I bring up a few things that we probably should watch for?

1 – the factory isn’t even designed yet. Then it needs environmental vetting by state and federal agencies. And zoning and permits. Only then construction can begin. Maybe it’s finished in 3 or 4 years? Maybe . . .

2 – Some factory promises are just smoke and mirrors to begin with. Like Foxconn pretending it would build a huge Smartphone factory in Wisconsin. 8 years ago. America’s state affiliated, left leaning media (like NPR) are still cheering that this hasn’t happened. See second link below.

3 – VW-Audi has a sketchy record when it comes to compliance with government regulations. They got nabbed faking their diesel emissions tests during the Obama administration. The fallout included complete decapitation of the VW senior management team, including CEO Martin Winterkorn. VW-Audi halted production of all diesel passenger cars, and pivoted hard to battery EVs. The new vehicles are overpriced, have crappy range, and are slow sellers in the USA. They couldn’t even get the iconic electrified VW bus (ID Buzz) right. It costs an astonishing $70,000. The iconic original 13 window bus, with sunroof, cost something like $2,000.

Before we pass out the tariff dodger of the month award to Audi, let’s remember that a BUNCH of international brands already have factories in the USA.

Toyota – 5 plants

Honda – 4 plants

Hyundai/Kia – 3 plants

And Mercedes, Mazda, Nissan, Volvo, BMW, Subaru . . .

Welcome to America, Audi. But I doubt if I can afford your products. Even the tiny, base models of the A4 are scary-expensive. But not as much as the VW ID Buzz . . .

I’m just sayin’ . . .

Audi building plant in USA to please Trump: Report - Car News | The Financial Express

What Wisconsin's Foxconn plant can tell us about the future of manufacturing in the U.S. : NPR
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@LeopoldBloom Overall, manufacturing jobs did pretty well under Biden, exceeding the peak under tRump.


Seems Bush II was the biggest killer of manufacturing jobs

Interestingly, public sector jobs reduced the most under Obama. Gosh, the things you can learn by looking at actual data!!

And check out job growth red vs blue

And check out GDP job growth red vs blue
@SusanInFlorida Got it, nothing is Trump's fault.

Any president with even modest political instincts would have used the COVID pandemic to rally the American people against a common cause. Heck, Trump could have said "social distance for America" and sold MAGA masks. He would have been reelected in a landslide. But trust Trump to turn even a virus into another us vs. them fight.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@LeopoldBloom in the interest of not disrupting international trade and supply chains, the US government concealed the wuhan/engineered origins of Covid 19 as long as possible.

now we have trump, who doesn't follow those rules apparently.
@SusanInFlorida Oh a GiAnTt CoNsPiRaCy ThEoRy!!

Remind us, who had been in charge of the US government for the past three years when Covid emerged??

Remind us, who spent five weeks lying about the risks of Covid even though he told Woodward how dangerous it was??

Jan 22 “And we have it totally under control... It’s going to be just fine.”
Jan 24, he tweeted “It will all work out well.”
Jan 30: “Well, we pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

Trump, Feb. 07 to Woodward: “It goes through the air. That’s always tougher than the touch. You don’t have to touch things. Right? But the air, you just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed. And so that’s a very tricky one. That’s a very delicate one. It’s also more deadly than even your strenuous flus.”

Feb 10 “Looks like by April, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away,”
Feb 19 “I think the numbers are going to get progressively better as we go along.”
Feb 23 “very much under control,”
Feb 26 “We’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.”
Feb 26 “...when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
Feb 28 concern about coronavirus “is their new hoax”
Feb 28 “we’ve lost nobody and you wonder the press is in hysteria mode.”
Feb 29 said a vaccine would be available “very quickly” and “very rapidly”
Mar 02 “We’re talking about a much smaller range” of deaths than from the flu.
Mar 04 (to Hannity) “It’s very mild.”
Mar 10 “And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.”
Mar 13 “No. I don't take responsibility at all.”
The other question is whether the initial discussions for this began in the Biden administration. I'll bet they did.
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@LeopoldBloom the link says this is a new decision, specifically triggered by the current white house tariffs.
@LeopoldBloom But if we look into the past, you are absolutely right, VW-Audi has been lured by sizable Biden era incentives.

BERLIN, Feb 24 2023 (Reuters) - Volkswagen-owned Audi (VOWG_p.DE) may build a factory in the United States in light of the Inflation Reduction Act, it said on Friday, the latest company to consider investments in the region to take advantage of the subsidies it offers.

The premium carmaker, which sold around 190,000 cars in the U.S. last year, accounting for 11% of its total sales, does not yet have a plant in the country, and is at present not eligible for tax incentives and subsidies offered under the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) for vehicles sourced and made in North America.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/audi-ceo-planning-electric-car-factory-us-due-ira-2023-02-24/

Volkswagen's Scout unit wins $1.3 bln in incentives for South Carolina factory March 20, 2023

South Carolina Governor Henry McMaster on Monday signed legislation approving $1.29 billion in state incentives for Volkswagen's (VOWG_p.DE)
, opens new tab off-road brand Scout Motors to build a $2 billion manufacturing plant for trucks and SUVs.

The project could also receive up to $180 million in job development tax credits based on hiring, said South Carolina Commerce Secretary Harry Lightsey.

In May, VW said it would reintroduce the Scout off-road brand in the United States, offering new electric pickup and sport-utility vehicles. Scout said it hopes to eventually create 4,000 jobs and produce 200,000 Scout vehicles annually.

Groundbreaking is planned for mid-2023 and production is projected to begin by the end of 2026.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/volkswagens-scout-unit-wins-13-bln-incentives-south-carolina-factory-2023-03-20/
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Lol people don't want factory jobs anymore, there's 500,000 open manufacturing jobs and people aren't willing to do that lololol. I bet they're going to lose money.
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georgelong · 46-50, M
JD Vance will be in office and more and more foreign companies will be here nd more and more US companies will restore. @jshm2
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$4 billion taxpayer's money from government incentives
So regressive. So denislist. Cars and burbs! You have no less lethal choices, so again, gahead and SOLVE yourselves through middle of the road thinking!
georgelong · 46-50, M
NPR gloating about decade old news is why it’s defunded 🤣
@georgelong So it happened in the Obama administration?
georgelong · 46-50, M
She was referring to Foxconn which was Obama era smart guy. They used con in their name for goodness sake. @LeopoldBloom
SusanInFlorida · 31-35, F
@georgelong i don't think NPR should be defunded because of their one sided take on reporting.

they should be defunded because the US government should not have "state affiliated media" of any kind.

in that regard I'm okay with seeing "voice of america" fade away. It's not as if there aren't 100 cable news channels, and thousands of internet news sources. let's allow the iranians to be fully exposed to the full range of american political debate, and understand what it means to live in a democracy without censorship.

 
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