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UK parliament votes for suicide bill

UK has now made it legal for doctors and a “panel of experts” to help adults who are expected to die in less than six months to commit suicide. It was a close vote. The first state-backed suicide may not be until 2029.

What are your thoughts on assisted suicide?
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KiwiBird · 36-40, F
Voluntary Assisted Dying or VAD is available in South Australia.

Strictly controlled.

Six month life expectancy

Obviously the person involved has to have mental capacity to make decisions on their health care. Independently assessed by two suitably qualified medical professionals and there are over 70 safeguards. Not an easy process.

Obviously those with advanced dementia would not be eligible.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@KiwiBird The doctor can deceive them and subtly or not so subtly dupe them into thinking this is the right thing, the best thing, for them.
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@emiliya
At no time is a health practitioner allowed to initiate a conversation or discussion regarding voluntary assisted dying with a patient. This is to ensure that the request is completely voluntary and made without coercion.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@KiwiBird It says: “(1) No registered medical practitioner is under any duty to raise the subject of the provision of assistance in accordance with this Act with a person.”

“(2) But nothing in subsection (1) prevents a registered medical practitioner exercising their professional judgement to decide if, and when, it is appropriate to discuss the matter with a person.”

“(3) Where a person indicates to a registered medical practitioner their wish to seek assistance to end their own life in accordance with this Act, the registered medical practitioner may (but is not required to) conduct a preliminary discussion about the requirements that need to be met for such assistance to
be provided.”

“(4) If a registered medical practitioner conducts such a preliminary discussion with a person, the practitioner must explain to and discuss with that person:”

“(a) the person’s diagnosis and prognosis;
(b) any treatment available and the likely effect of it;
(c) any available palliative, hospice or other care, including symptom
management and psychological support.”

“(5) A registered medical practitioner who is unwilling or unable to conduct the preliminary discussion mentioned under subsection (3) must, if requested by the person to do so, refer them to another registered medical practitioner whom the first practitioner believes is willing and able to conduct that discussion.”

I was a medical student. If I returned to medical school and graduated, practicing medicine in a country or state permitting state-backed suicide, I would never suggest or raise suicide to the patient or explore their apparent wish to end their lives.
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@emiliya WTF are you talking about. All my references are LAW in South Australia.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@KiwiBird I am talking about the new law in UK.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@KiwiBird How explicit do they have to be in their request to die in South Australia?
emiliya · 22-25, F
@KiwiBird Is it common practice?
KiwiBird · 36-40, F
@emiliya You replied to my comment on S Aust.

All Australian States and Territories have their own Laws. Enacted between 2019 and 2024.

There has not been a rush....it isn't for everyone.