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X’s Sales Pitch: Give Us Your Ad Business or We’ll Sue

The advertising woes of the company formerly known as Twitter began shortly after Musk’s takeover. Major advertisers left the platform over content moderation concerns and turmoil stemming from the departure of senior X executives. X tried to woo brands back by offering discounts and introducing new brand-safety ad tools.

In meetings on Capitol Hill, Musk told Rep. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio) that advertisers were boycotting X, people familiar with the matter said. He complained in particular, they said, about the Global Alliance for Responsible Media, an initiative by the World Federation of Advertisers intended to protect brands from what it deemed “unsafe” online content. Jordan, who heads the House Judiciary Committee, later subpoenaed GARM for documents, seeking evidence of anticonservative bias.

Companies like Verizon and Ralph Lauren started getting legal notices from Twitter: pay us or we will end up in court. Verizon spent $10M, Ralph Lauren also paid.

Yesterday, Musk tweeted that he regrets some of things he said that were critical of Trump.

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Carla · 61-69, F

Northwest, im not an expert on political/economical ideologies...the inner workings and such. I have a general knowledge, like most.
But this doesn't sound at all like capitalism. It sounds like communism.

basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M

@Carla no, it doesn't at all.

Communism refers to a stateless, classless society without monetary value and a gift economy.

It's not socialism either.

It's corporatism.
A key aspect of fascism.

Northwest · M

@Carla

But this doesn't sound at all like capitalism. It sounds like communism.

Funny you would say that, because the WSJ reached this conclusion. This is what the Chinese Communist Party does: forces brands to buy advertising in certain companies.

Northwest · M

@basilfawlty89 From the Wall Street Journal this morning:

“This type of activity may be common on Nanjing Road in China, but absolutely not at all common on Madison Avenue,”

basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M

@Northwest yes, but the Chinese Communist Party is communist in name only.

They have a market economy and private ownership of the means of production.
That's the antithesis of communism.

The CCP is more Chinese nationalist than anything else.

Northwest · M

@basilfawlty89

yes, but the Chinese Communist Party is communist in name only.

Xi is a committed Maoist. A Chinese version of communism that achieved what achieved what other versions of communist failed to do, by focusing on erasing poverty and raising the standard of living in the country, rather than endless suffering to spread communism worldwide.

Carla · 61-69, F

@basilfawlty89 i dont have the chops to debate this. Does corporatism involve governmental pressure to induce companies to submit to other companies whims? Favoritism? I dont know. I really don't know of a truly communist country. It seems to blur. Authoritarian in my mind, really encompasses much.

basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M

@Northwest *Xi says he's a committed Maoist. Kim Jong also says he's a committed believer in Democracy. Actions speak louder than words. Privatization is completely against communism and/or socialism.

Northwest · M

@basilfawlty89

Privatization is completely against communism and/or socialism.

Looks like you did not read this part:

Xi is a committed Maoist.

basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M

@Northwest looks like you did not reas this part:

Xi says he's a committed Maoist. Kim Jong also says he's a committed believer in Democracy

Anyone can say anything, words however do have objective meanings.
If you go against every principle of communism, how are you a communist?

Carla · 61-69, F

@basilfawlty89 but you can do communistic things.
This action to me, looks as though twitter/x is being enveloped by the state.
And verizon and lauren are being controlled by it.

basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M

@Carla that wouldn't be communism, that would be Marxist Leninist style socialism.

There are different forms of socialism.

I am not Marxist.

Northwest · M

@basilfawlty89

Xi says he's a committed Maoist.

That's NOT what I said. While Xi is behaving like a committed Maoist, he's never made that statement, which is why I chose my words to reflect that.

Of course anyone can claim anything, but an examination of what's going in China, leaves only one conclusion: he's a Maoist.

As to the "principles of communism", what version of communism? Is it Marxism? Is it Leninism? Is it OK to for people to own Porches in Shanghai? Perhaps if everyone can have it?

Is China "privatizing"? There is no or yes answer. Have you been to Shanghai recently? How about the Shanghai Disneyland? How about paying attention to the proceeds of the last Chinese Communist Party "convention".

Name a communist country that erased poverty? A goal of communism. China did.

Carla · 61-69, F

@basilfawlty89 in my mind, which i will say, is often muddled...in an authoratarian govt., ideologies morph into what suits that authoritarian. One act may seem communistic, another fascistic. Have any of these systems, socialism, communism, fascism, even democratic systems ever been emplemented in it's pure form?
All of it seems to benefit the chosen while the rest are left as tools to benefit those chosen.
Kind of like organized religion...

Northwest · M

@Carla

ideologies morph into what suits that authoritarian.

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