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Judaism and Christianity have caused the most death and chaos in Jerusalem

When examining the history of the geographic land we now refer to as the occupied Palestinian territories (Gaza + west bank + East Jerusalem ) and the State of Israel combined , it is not fundamentally different from that of its neighbors, such as Iraq or Lebanon. It is marked by a long and complex history shaped by successive empires.

However, the current conflict is not complex at all. In fact, it is rather straightforward.

We are looking at a geographic land that, like many others in the region, passed through various imperial hands. But following the world wars and the global shift toward the nation-state model, The British empire before it left facilitated the transfer of this land to a political ideology—Zionism. This opened the door for waves of foreign settlers to enter the land. And rather than at least integrating peacefully with the existing local population, these settlers demanded a state of their own. When the local population resisted, it led to widespread displacement and massacres, eventually resulting in the establishment of the modern State of Israel—largely populated by recent or older settler-colonists, with only a small minority of the original inhabitants remaining. And the Palestinian Territories which are fragmented enclaves populated mostly by locals and they continue to face slow gradual displacement and demographic erasure coupled with apartheid and occupation until the Zionist project/ vision comes to fruition .

Instead of confronting these clear and tangible political realities, many people attempt to frame the conflict in religious terms. It is common to hear Zionist Jews and Zionist Christians ( particularly foreign, not the local Christian communities who have also suffered) attribute this geographic land’s instability to Islam and Muslims. This framing seeks to obscure the underlying political and setter colonial dynamics by turning the issue into a religious debate.

Ironically, if one were to assess the matter strictly through a religious lens, the historical record would actually favor Islamic governance. The region experienced its most sustained periods of peace and coexistence under Islamic rule—far more so than under either Christian or Jewish rule. Thus, if religion is to be the metric, the argument is, in fact, reversed.



Christian rule—whether under the British, Byzantines, or Crusaders—was marked by some of the most severe massacres, expulsions , marginalisations , and frequent uprisings.

Jewish rule, particularly in the modern era, has largely been characterized by internal divisions, endless conflicts , high death tolls, occupation, apartheid and a lack of coexistence.

In contrast, Islamic rule is generally regarded as the most peaceful ( out of the three) , with the longest continuous periods of stability and coexistence.

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Religion is bad and if you're religious, you should feel bad, but this is very reductionist. Religion is often used in propaganda to justify a war, but war itself is caused by material conditions. Benjamin Netanyahu is using Judaism in his propaganda to get people to keep supporting his genocide, but the reason he's doing said genocide is because there are corruption charges against him and he wants to distract the public from that. It's similar to how Republicans will attack queer people, they'll use Christianity to justify those attacks, but the real reason they attack the queers is to distract people from their awful unpopular economic policies.
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Moon3624 · 18-21, F
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“Israel was ATTACKED by the same religion, the same group of ragheads.”

Israel was not “attacked” in the sense you’re implying. Israel is a settler-colonial state that refuses to allow the return of those it displaced. It is also an illegal occupier under international law, which means that acts of resistance such as the one on October 7th are, from a legal standpoint, considered legitimate. You can repeat the narrative you prefer, but international law is clear .

This does not mean that the nature of the October 7th attack was moral in my view . However, I cannot recall a single Israeli military operation that could be described as moral either. Your outrage appears selective and biased. The Israeli military has committed far worse acts than Hamas, both before and after October 7th. My opposition to Hamas is not because they attacked Israel, but because I believe they are counterproductive to the Palestinian cause just like I believe Israel since its “ founding” (not just nitinyahu ) have done everything in their power to make the world less safe for Jews .

You are most likely an American evangelical Christian radical who believes all Jews must gather in Jerusalem to fulfill a prophecy that ends with their destruction. There’s no need to pretend otherwise.

Finally, I never brought up religion when discussing this conflict. Yet it is often Zionist Jews and Christians like yourself who invoke Islam as the root cause of chaos in Palestine/Israel. That is precisely why I made this post—to highlight the fact that, historically and in modern times , Judaism and Christianity have caused far more suffering in this land than Islam ever has.
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